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How the Rockets are getting absolutely jobbed by the referees against the Blazers. With statistics!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bmd, Apr 26, 2014.

  1. bmd

    bmd Member

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    You just said that the Rockets are not getting into the paint as much in the playoffs as they are in the regular season.

    I just proved they are scoring more points in the paint in the playoffs than in the regular season.

    So because the stats disagree with what you said, you brush them off?
     
  2. TheRealist137

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    No, it is you who can't understand that your stats do not prove me wrong at all.

    It's not that hard.
     
  3. bmd

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    Alright then, explain that to me. You say the Rockets aren't getting into the paint as much. I used numbers to show how they are scoring 8 more points per game in the paint.

    How does that not prove you wrong?

    Explain your stance..
     
  4. phantoman

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    Portland doesn't reach at all on our guards drives. Which is why harden isn't getting calls. But howard rarely has been get respect from the refs when portand has basically held him, slapped him, etc. we should be getting a ton of calls in the post but don't. However, Portland is doing a great job stayin in front of our drives and cuts. I think Portland has an advantage on atheletism in the 1,3,4 spot which hurt is badly
     
  5. EffTheJazz!!!

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    Definitely getting hoed by refs on a lottt of calls (though game 3 seemed better except for towards end of regulation and the no calls when they were hammering dwight). but we've fouled someone on a jumphot or aldridge right as he's going up after a bump like 6-7 times (at least) total each game. blaming refs is fun (and they did cost us game 1), but we need to cut down on the stupid things we can control also ya feel me
     
  6. BonziWellsGOAT

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    Thats his schtick. He's the "realist". Which basically means he's going to be super negative all the time and sh** on anyone's optimism and say he's being "real". Or just be contrary to anything and everything so he sounds smarter. It's annoying but try not to feed it.
     
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    Typically the more aggressive team gets the calls, while the campy jumpshooting team doesn't. It's been backwards this series, and it's obvious. There were several plays yesterday, one specifically where Aldridge drew the foul, where he was getting defended hard and got the foul while not doing much.

    The other thing that was a bit interesting was how often the Blazers were in the refs faces, clapping at them, making gestures and no technicals. Terry Stotts complained nearly after every single call against his team. The Rockets need to be a lot more vocal about their displeasure in the free throw disparity. Game 1 we had zero free throws the entire first half. Can't say that doesn't sound funny.
     
  8. Htownballer38

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    Dude that is your opinion, you don't have to agree with the mass. And the refs are not ignoring it, that are not calling those particular fouls. When we had Tracy McGrady and Yao, they experienced the same exact thing from the officials.
     
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    Stotts is working the refs harder than McFail. The inconsistencies I'm seeing are between the way they call Howard and LMA. They are making an effort to not foul harden so you have to give them credit there.
     
  10. TheRealist137

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    Ugh...

    Example:

    Rockets get into the paint 10 times during the regular season. They score 4 of those times and get fouled 4 times. Total PIP = 8 points.

    In Playoffs, Rockets get into the paint 7 times, they score 5 of those times, get fouled 1 time. Total PIP = 10 points.

    This is proof that the stat is meaningless for what you are trying to argue.
     
  11. JVL713

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    I remember one play where Dwight got fouled so hard the mic at the rim picked up the slapping noise...and surprise...it wasn't called
     
  12. RocketsJumer

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    It's so obvious that we aren't getting the same types of calls the Blazers are getting. LMA was getting touch fouls on his jump shots throughout Game 1 and 2. And when he was cold in Game 3, he started getting those calls again and found his rhythm. Lillard has loved at the line this whole series.

    Neither Harden or Howard are getting any types of calls whatsoever. Both Harden NAND Howard averaged over 9 free throw attempts a game and now are averaging around 5. That's 10 free throws a game missing. That really affecting Harden I feel. He loves at the line and gets a rhythm there as well.

    I just wish officaiting would be even one day.
     
  13. SooneRockStro

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    How is it that Portland's free throws per game is up a staggering 33.19% from the regular season. Seems quite unfair.
     
  14. Nick

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    Because they didn't play the Rockets for all 82 games in the regular season?

    The Rockets do tend to foul a lot (which often is the byproduct of getting beat on perimeter penetration, or their "style" of grabbing/hitting to replace playing good/sound defense)... would like to know what the average Rockets opponents FTA/G was for all playoff team opponents from the regular season (home/road splits).
     
  15. bmd

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    Okay, let's think about it logically. In your example, you are saying fouls in the paint take away from the "points in the paint" stat.

    The Rockets averaged 51 points in the paint in the regular season. They are averaging 61 points in the paint in the playoffs. That's 5 extra buckets.

    The Rockets are getting 7 less free throw attempts per game in the playoffs compared to the regular season. Which means they are not getting 3 or 4 foul calls that they would normally get.

    So at the most, if those fouls were called, it would negate 6 to 8 points in the paint max... assuming all of those fouls would occur in the paint. And considering the Rockets are averaging 10 more points in the paint than normal, that means they would still average 2 to 4 more points in the paint than in the regular season, minimum.


    So your theory does not hold water.
     
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    I agree that refs have been for the most part bias against us. But if you are honest with yourself, you also understand that outside of the invisible fouls called when defending LMA, most of the others ones are fair because our guys don´t know how to guard people on the perimeter. I am of the opinion that D12 is top 3 best perimeter defender in our team. There were plays during this series where D12 switched on the pick, and he had to guard guys like Lillard, and he just knew that he didn´t have the speed to stay in front of him, so he gave him just enough space, and just contest the jumper and try to make him shoot over you which is never easy as opposed to guard him closely so that he runs around you for an easy layup.
    Go ask Parsons what he did to Batum when he was all up on his grill. He just dribbled passed him and had an easy layup, something that should never happen that easily if you are a pro that knows who you are guarding.

    Our guys don´t know how to guard on the perimeter, that is why they let them drive easily, and just attempt to contest at the hoop. Go ask what Mathews does to Harden, he doesn´t give him clear lanes to the hoop, because he knows that if he lets him get close to it, he will euro step your ass and your contest will result in a foul 90% of the time.

    What I am saying is that yes, refs have been terrible against us, but our D is lazy and unfundamental. There was a sequence yesterday where we had like 4 fouls in 5s of play, I don´t give a crap if refs are against you, that is just inexcusable IMO.
     
  17. Sydeffect

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    Rockets were 6th in the league in FT/FGA rate
     
  18. WinkFan

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    That was a complete flop by Williams. He just landed and fell down because Parsons was close.
     
  19. TheJet

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    Exactly like all women would do in that situation. Amiright?
     
  20. awc713

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    small sample size...

    a lot of it is the fact that harden wont get a lot of his calls in the playoffs.

    jsut the nature of playoff basketball, i guess
     

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