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James Harden - How quickly they forget...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DreaMac, Apr 24, 2014.

  1. RedRedemption

    RedRedemption Member

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    Well yeah. I'm not going to disagree with that lol.
    I followed the team in 2005. Started following more closely in 2006. Got hooked in 2007.
    I'm not 40 years old, I'm 19, I can't do anything to change my age; it is what it is.

    Too bad this team and THAT team have NO similarities at all, whatsoever. Its possible, you may be right and we are looking at a historic comeback, but basing that off what the Rockets did 20 years ago with a different roster, a different front office, and a different coaching staff? That's ridiculous.

    If you want to see a true bandwagon fan, read my posts during the Texans season. I quit on that team every year, and bandwagon back on when they are good. I only want Manziel because he is exciting to watch, not because I think he's going to be the most logical player to draft.
     
  2. yummyhawtsauce

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    Not asking him to be traded, but he has high expectations going for him. The first statement you made about the jitters and nervousness isn't a valid excuse.

    1) He has been the playoffs before. He has that experience behind him.
    2) He has yet to perform well in playoffs. It is this year that he is expected to come out blazing and carry or at least be one of the primary contributors
    3) Derozen, Lillard, also first time playoffs. They are playing just fine.


    Regular season superstar stats/carrymode/performance is fine. But what it boils down to is winning it all in the post season.

    Yes a lot of people are knee jerking and saying ridiculous things - but they are just expressing their frustration for the team. Harden just needs to play within himself. If his shot isn't going, then he should set up others. He needs to play smarter than he is right now. Sure you are in a slump, you can contribute other ways. Look at Lillard. bad shooting night, but his effort helps the team.
     
  3. J.R.

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    He's basically already told us not to take him seriously. ;)

     
  4. RedRedemption

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    Yup. Don't listen to game thread me.
    That was the most pissed I have ever been as a Rockets fan.
     
  5. J.R.

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    LOL

    So who are we trading Harden for?

    Can we even trade him? I mean, he has negative trade value. We might have to throw in a pick or two to even get him off our hands.
     
  6. IBTL

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    PATIENCE.

    Nothing is ever easy. If it was easy then it wouldn't feel good like it did when we won the championship. And then won again after down 3-1. This is far from over.

    Now if we go down 3-0 and are down by 20 at halftime of game 4 then I'm with you. ;)
     
  7. TheJet

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    Two things I took away from this post:
    1) You're 19.
    2) Did you just admit to being a bandwagon Texans fan or was that just sarcasm?
     
  8. Pull_Up_3

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    yea no.

    he played bad in the finals but was the main reason okc got past the spurs that year. there is a reason he is the spurs killer what he did in that series vs the spurs really put him on the map.
     
  9. RedRedemption

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    1) Yes. I'm a relatively new fan compared to those that lived through the championship years.
    2) Not sarcasm. Sorry if it pains y'all but football has never and will never be my passion. Basketball and the Rockets. That's all I need or want concerning team sports.

    You are right, but still. Sample size. That speaks more to Harden being a bad matchup for the Spurs rather than him being capable of turning it on for the rest of the playoffs.
    Some of us just don't have the patience to be optimistic lol.
    I'm not embarrassed to admit that, I'm hot-headed in person and on the internet.
    Its hard to be logical and reasonable when I'm filled with rage.

    Yeah, but you have some good points. We are amplifying Portland's value as a team simply because we are amplifying our losses.
     
  10. ksny15

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    This is a well needed thread. It's sad how fast "fans" on here turn on their own players .. sad really
     
  11. YOLO

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    but that comes with any star player in sports..it comes with the territory. if you're getting paid max money and to be the leader of a team with high exceptions and aspirations and don't come through when it counts of course theres going to be alot of backlash.
     
  12. felixng2012

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    Lol RS games does not = Postseason games.
    Harden is a star not a superstar.
     
  13. YOLO

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    imo you don't become a superstar until you accomplish success in the playoffs and consistently. there are plenty of stars in the league. Once the playoffs come when it really matters, it separates the two.
     
  14. KingLeoric

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    Do you remember Luther Head? He used to play bad all year long but in one game he carried us to a win. He was the hero on this forum that night. Or remember TMac and how he played his heart out in playoffs then quit on the team after a year of drama?

    Harden was loved on this Rockets forum for playing great basketball as a Rocket, which is exactly why he will be hated when he plays bad basketball as a Rocket.

    After being tedious in and blowing up both home court games, the only people who would defend him are HOFs.

    And yes he will be loved as a hero again if he carries us to a win in game 3.
     
  15. ksny15

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    No most Rockets fans are just brutal. The **** they say is ridiculous sometimes.
     
  16. MethodM

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    It isn't even like he isn't getting good shots. He just isn't dropping them. I remember 2 or 3 shots where he is open on the foul line for a jumper and just misses. Parsons played the same way in game 2. You can't win when 2 of your 3 best players are shooting less than 40 percent combined.
     
  17. oakdogg

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    Great thread!!!!! I BELIEVE IN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  18. Scarface281

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    Against Dallas too, Harden was the closer. He needs to step out of it and stop being a p***y.
     
  19. Ziggy

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    Harden shouldn't have to will himself to a good offensive performance. A competent coach would get him involved in the game by drawing up plays, putting him in new situations, creating mismatches.

    Backscreens? Nope. Pick and rolls? Not really. Create space off the ball (like Spurs do with Green)? Nope.

    In the modern NBA you don't hand it to a guy and expect him to do everything himself unless he's Durant, Paul or Lebron.

    McHale has got to figure out a way to get Harden in position to succeed instead of just conceding defeat to Portland's strategy.
     
  20. cn0gd

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    dont u still not getting it yet? he is still who he is, live and die on whistle. he got 10 less FTs per game, so he is getting 18ppg vs 28ppg back in march. he is still who he is---just not the type u can rely on playoff intensity.
     

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