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[NYPost] Rockets could make push for Carmelo (UPDATE: Blog post)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ItsMyFault, Mar 13, 2014.

  1. wfeebs

    wfeebs Member

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    You don't really understand the concept of a sign and trade, do you?
     
  2. jamphus

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    We only got one ball on the court.
    It's no good to have another Harden-type player.
     
  3. Play07

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    im hoping for bosh on a flexible 3yr $12-14 a yr deal. I will take melo if it comes down to it but it wil be alot of other holes to fill. with lin, asik, jones/dmo gone.
     
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    Bosh won't sign for that to change teams. Most likely scenario is the big 3 stay together and try to add another big time player...perhaps one of them taking a minimum contract for a year to get it done or perhaps all of them taking a few million less to add another star/superstar. The discounted contract for Bosh will be his next one after this one in 4-5 years providing he hasn't retired.
     
  5. Realjad

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    WHo do we trade to make the money work? Parsons makes next to nothing, SO does Jones and all of our prospects. We would HAVE to include either Asik or Lin in the deal and if New York wanted to pay Lin that much money.. then they would have kept him
     
  6. torocan

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    NY actually pays Lin LESS through S&T than if they matched due to the distribution of the cap hit. If they had matched next year would be a $15M cap hit. If they take Lin in a sign and trade it's an $8.3MM cap hit.

    Due to the way the Luxury tax works, taking Lin in a S&T actually saves them money vs matching (IE, Lin is cheaper than the first time around). Also, if they're losing Melo's salary off the cap ($23M), then taking Lin + Asik actually ends up saving them money.

    Would they rather keep Melo? Sure. However if Melo is walking anyway, the poison pill on Asik + Lin won't be the obstacle. It will be a negative vs 2 normal contracts, but given there aren't THAT many teams that are viable trade partners, not as much as you would think.
     
  7. bluffkin

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    we can't wait 2 years to finally contend and if we get an opportunity to add melo this year compared to a chance of having Durnat, I would take an extra year of Melo over Durnat.
     
  8. SamCassell

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    Lin has a smaller cap # but he still is going to be paid $15m. The Knicks are super-capped out anyway for next season, so the reduced 2014-15 season cap figure means nothing to them. They won't be a player in FA until 2015.
     
  9. torocan

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    It actually does mean something as it's less money out of pocket for them. They're way over the luxury tax and facing the repeater penalty next year ($2.5:$1 or more) so every $1M saved in cap space saves the $2.50+.

    Also, BOTH of their contracts expire at the end of next year which fits in perfectly with the timing of their other expiring contracts. That adds significant value in terms of timing their cap space and rebuilding.

    Getting a decent match on cap space in a suitable trade partner isn't very hard, but getting a decent match that ALSO matches up in terms of expiry timing is not easy at all.
     
  10. Phillyrocket

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    Just read a stat online that only Melo and Kyle Korver went 45/40/80 this year and of course Melo takes way more shots and is a focal point for defenses.

    I don't know where people are getting that he's an inefficient chucker. Melo is an elite scorer who has actually improved his 3 point shot. Durant and Nowitzki didn't hit 40% from beyond the arc this year.

    Melo as a stretch 4 and keeping Parsons would be insane. Much better than the. Heat core. Thankfully Morey is the gm and not some of you guys.
     
  11. larsv8

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    Melo is going to exercise his early termination option and he will be a free agent. Houston is allowed to talk to free agents.

    Incorrect. Sign and trade offers no advantages that team with max cap space can't offer without use of SnT.

    However, in this particular case, Houston can't reach Melo's max, so SnT has some value, although not very much.

    Just stop. He is correct.

    It's not?

    Last I checked the Rockets take near 100 shots a game. Harden averages 18 shots a game. There is more than enough shots to go around.
     
  12. cheke64

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    harden makes Melo look the DPOY.
     
  13. ForTheWinYes

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    You really should never post.
     
  14. akxninja

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    I feel like we can be competitive with or without Melo in these next 2 years. Morey is a mastermind of finding valuable players on near minimum contract for short contracts that don't hinder his long term plans. Of course, this all depends on how things shake out on OKC's part.

    Not sure I'd feel comfortable with Melo and Harden both on the same team. Both ball dominant, defensive liabilities. Durant can play off the ball just as well as he does with the ball and actually plays good defense. I'm sure no ones arguing that KD>Melo, but I think KD is worth the wait over 1-2 years with Melo unless we can get him for "cheap"
     
  15. BamBam

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    Acquiring Melo, as tantalizing as this sounds, should probably be discussed AFTER the Rockets finish their journey in the playoffs. I don't think it's good karma to be talking about trading players off of our team while we are making a playoff run. They all deserve our support!

    GO ROCKETS!!!
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  16. AstroMechPLZ

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    Do you mean only in the east or something? What about Curry, Calderon, just off the top of my head?
     
  17. Phillyrocket

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    Could be or maybe for forwards and not guards. Figured I should have double checked it before I posted.:grin:
     
  18. smoothie

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    so we should get him.
     
  19. Ben Frank

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    http://prosportsdaily.com/Headlines/ExternalArticle?articleId=301656

    Well we're 1 and 0 in the Dwight Howard treatment.. I wonder if we can make it 2
     
  20. Phillyrocket

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    So in other words Thibs>>McHale not so important.;)
     

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