You seem to think I'm throwing out the film, that's not the case. The film is part of the reason my opinion of him has changed. He's showed some obvious red flags since the season has been over, you then go back over the film and look for them....guess what? You find them. It's not as noticeable when he's beating up on Eastern Kentucky, but if you look, they're there. Add to it the fact that his frame is very unlikely to hold up to the punishment he'll take in the NFL and the fact that he doesn't seem to be as bright as people would have had you believe and I don't see any reason why he'd go early. He just doesn't really do anything well. Now I know the Bridgewater fan club will still bury their head in the sand about all of this or just outright call them "lies", but hopefully at some point they'll find a way to move on. Jon Major was tough on people when he came out, Bridgewater is just this year's version.
Facts don't matter to you. You have never budged except to the more negative. It's why your point to is right on the money. But right on the money for you. I don't care how you feel or why you feel it. It's irrelevant on this board. Only you know what in your heart. But you quack an awful lot. And that's all I am saying.
You could have left out the last sentence and your post would have been reasonable. Bridgewater is not without fault and you can see his mistakes in film. He definitely has some long ball accuracy issues. He also has a tendency to settle for shorter routes. He said that is by design (coaches decision) but still it is a fact you can see on film but you also see when it comes to footwork, progressions and handling pressure Bridgewater excels and blows the competition away. People who can't see that either are not looking for it or don't want to see it. There's nothing emotionally invested with that just open eyes.
You know them as well as I do. He has inconsistent accuracy despite his completion %....if you actually watch the film, you'll see that. He has questionable footwork which shows up on film He has questionable/poor throwing mechanics which show up on film. When you watch film, you see how small his frame is, which is why people questioned his BS weigh in at the combine and why he dropped back down for his pro day. It's pretty clear that he chugged a ton of water or whatever to put on some "fake weight" for the weigh in, he is and likely will always be a <210 lb player On film there is examples of poor passes probably caused by not getting a proper grip on the ball, his hand size at the combine confirmed that he has small hands (though not under 9 inches) and his pro day confirmed that his small hand size makes gloves mandatory for him to ever get a proper grip on the ball.
You're still tossing the race card? Please. You're just embarrassing yourself further. Your bias is so extreme that you cannot even see that I've said Teddy could be good, but not 1-1 pick worthy. You made up lies and put words in my mouth, in an attempt to make yourself look better. ...and I'm not afraid to call you out on it. take your race card garbage to the D&D. There's just no place for it here.
1. Inconsistent accuracy is bs 2. Footwork issues are bs 3. His throwing mechanics are unorthodox but clean and smooth 4. His hand size has nothing to do with grip on the ball You are turning into a full time bullsh!itter
I'm no longer an advocate for BW at 1-1, Clowney just makes too much sense IMO. But BW at 2-1 would be an amazing value pick. I'm hoping for that.
1. Watch the film more closely and look for more than just if the pass happened to be completed and you'll see it...or not, because let's face it, you aren't likely to see anything that isn't positive when it comes to Bridgewater 2. They aren't BS if you know what you are watching. 3. That's a homer way of saying that they are poor/questionable 4. I shouldn't have to explain this one to you, but yes, obviously it does.
I'd take him at 2-1 too, sure he has red flags and whatnot, but that's to be expected of someone in the 2nd round.
Okay, I will settle this with my expert analysis. Ive gone through years of schooling. I finished high school and completed 8 years after...so I am qualified. My initial take on Bridgewater was that he was not the best QB in the class. I pointed to his arm strength. I dont think it's very strong. I also mentioned that he's a twig. Those two things bothered me the most. I remember everyone jumping on me about his arm strength. At this point, Im fairly certain the jury is out on his arm strength and it's adequate, but not stellar, like I had mentioned a thousand times. +1 for me. I looked into tape and he was better in a lot of areas than I thought. I moved him up to the top of my QB board because, at the time, I had a lot of question marks for Manziel regarding his dedication, decisions, maturity, etc... Bridgewater is a football dork, which I like. Anyone who puts plays into Madden is a nerd, so I give him props for that. I think Bridge can take a good hit, but his size scares me in the long run. Seth Payne, who made a life for himself by playing DL, has mentioned many times that Teddy is too scrawny to play QB...his opinion should hold some weight. But, let's let that go. Bridge has excellent pocket presence. He can also improvise quite a bit, not as much as he is given credit for. Everyone talks about Manziel's improvisation, but Teddy isnt too far behind...the guy has pulled some nice plays out of his ass. My issues with Bridge are his inconsistencies in passes, specially when the ball is traveling 20+ yards downfield. Yes, he has thrown balls on a dime from far distances, but that's also been an area of weakness for him. After the combine, pro days, wonderlic, etc...I have moved Johnny to #1 on my QB list. They were already close, but Johnny nailed everything when the pressure was on...whereas Teddy pretty much flopped when the pressure is on. I mean, if you are used to throwing with a glove, why be stupid and not throw with a glove on your pro day? Dumb decision and it proved that way. There is something to be said for Manziel and his nailing of every test he was given...and he showed a work ethic and dedication I feared from him by stepping it up when he needed to. Therefore, I think it is clear that Johnny is the only QB that should be taken at 1-1. Having said that...Teddy, IMO, will be taken in the top 12. I dont think there is any way he could slide to the 2nd round. I could wish, but I'd most likely be dead wrong. And, I do hope I am wrong. Now the question comes...would I take Johnny at 1-1...or would it be better to trade down to 6-8 range, pick up some extras, and draft Teddy? If we stay at 1-1, I want Clowney, then Manziel. Im not comfortable with anyone else at 1-1. If we trade down, Im down with getting the extra picks and taking Teddy. And Bortles should never be in the discussion when talking about the top 3. Carr will be better than Bortles...along with about 2-3 other QBs.
EndoftheWorld, BobbyTheGreat, Remmi How in the world can yall still be arguing? I tapped out a month ago out of pure exhaustion.
This is an intelligent post by a poster who doesn't fall into Bigtexx's point 2. I don't agree with all of it. But it makes sense and one thing I do agree with is Manziel has moved up IMO and Bridgewater has moved down. But while I agree Manziel has moved up and Teddy has moved down I still have TB over manziel. The reason why is because Manziel is still and enigma. He is this amazing runner and can throw and scramble but no matter what he says he hasn't shown he can stay in the pocket. The thing is with Manziel if you truly want to get the most out of him you have to build an offense around him. Big recievers and a run a spread offense that utilizes the option. To not do that makes Manziel less valuable. I believe he could do that kind of offense and succeed but his size in the pocket and his overall pocket presence still has me worried. WHich is why I still give a slight edge to Bridgewater. Before all of the workouts and stuff TB was clearly my first pick. Now Bridgewater, Clowneyand Manziel are all more tightly bunched together but because I really want a QB I have Teddy still first. But honestly if it's Manziel instead I won't be hugely disappointed. I wouuldn't have said that before but his speed and prodays and his intelligence have moved him up. His size is still an issue
In other words you're not trained in watching tape and evaluating a player... It's much more to it than watching highlights. And since you are not you can't keep telling people to "watch the tape" to try to support you're argument. You see the part of your post I bolded out... I NEVER once said "I didn't like Teddy." You can't take criticism (or an opinion that doesn't match yours) and say it's because of "dislike." That means Big Texxx is right and you are emotionally invested. I NEVER said Teddy or any other player would be a bust. I've just simply gave reasons why a team may not draft him high. And now you see a lot of the things that the media is saying now _ are things I said back in the old Teddy thread. Hmmmm... Instead of you calling me "stupid" all the time, you should be asking me how did I come to that conclusion BEFORE the combine and pro days when you and many others assumed Teddy would be the #1 quarterback on every NFL team's board.
Awwwww c'mon man... And you don't do any troll'n. Lol... I like seeing you and Bobby go at it. It's like a comedy show.
He was just being a big troll Resorts to pulling arguments out of his butt to validate his own arguments
