But he only scored a 20 on the Wonderlic. That type notch accuracy, football iq, and leadership is meaningless. 7th rd pick at best
I will say it once and I will say it again, I would be shocked if the Jags passed him over as the 3rd pick. The worse thing is that the clowns that bring up the wonderlic test have no idea of what it consists of or its application
I took your Wonderlic scores and charted them as a function of QB skill, as defined by me. Go figure. No correlation whatsoever. Why are we doing this to ourselves? Dissecting freaking Wonderlic scores. I guess it's because the draft "season" is a ridiculous 4-5 months long now. Mindnumbing.
A nightmare facing him twice a year. If Blackmon can stay out of trouble thats a damn good weapon to throw to.
I dont understand the people saying that "so and so" player got a higher score than "Rodgers, Manning, Brees, etc..". There is more to being successful in the NFL than the Wonderlic. However, the wonderlic definitely gives some indication of success in the NFL. Much like arm strength...accuracy...or any of the hundred different attributes. Fitz gets a ridiculous score on the wonderlic...but guess what, he lacks an arm and isnt great at running...doesnt have amazing pocket presence...lots of things contribute to him not being a stud QB. Schaub gets a good score, but guess what? He sucks under pressure and doesnt have a cannon for an arm. If you have the physical and mental game down...and you score well on the wonderlic, then all signs point to a star. Like saying Flynn scored higher than Brees...well, Brees craps on Flynn in every other possible category, so it's not shocking that Brees is the better QB. When Bridgewater, who has a relatively weak arm and doesnt have incredible athleticism, scores low on the wonderlic, I think it's concerning. When Manziel, who has a solid arm and has good athleticism, scores high on the wonderlic, I think it's more evidence that he should be the guy going 1-1 over any of the other QBs. The wonderlic isnt the end all be all of stats...some of you act like that's what is being said.
1. The wonderlic has zero correlation with NFL success at ANY position 2. The wonderlic test is a test that evaluates a person's test taking skills and education background. At has literally nothing to do with a person's "IQ" 3. Bridgewater does not have a "relatively weak arm", It is much stronger than what people are giving him credit for 4. No team will look at the wonderlic and make any type of decisions on it unless it is a truly horrendous score. (under a 10)
I am more inclined to believe him than someone such as you for example who has no clue what they are talking about
1. That's completely false. How many solid starting QBs in the last 10 years have scored a 20 or below? There must be some correlation to success, otherwise, we'd see scores all over the place...instead of scores predominantly 25 and above. 2. The test is pretty much like an IQ test...so yes, it does, in many ways, test a person's IQ. 3. Ok, fair enough...I should have said, "Bridgewater has a relatively weak arm compared to Manziel, Bortles, and many of the top QBs in the NFL". Because, in fact, he does. That's been my knock on him from the very beginning of draft discussions and from watching tape after tape, I still stand by that. 4. Of course no team would make a decision based on the wonderlic...just like no team makes a decision based on one pro day, or the combine, or a million different things. It is, however, a part of the equation. If it werent, the test wouldnt be administered.
I never said Bridgewater threw poorly this A.M....Im saying it's hilarious that you are posting someone talking about their own client and acting like it's definitely true. I'd like to see when an agent or trainer has negatively criticized their client during a time before the draft or during free agency. I'll give you a hint: It doesnt happen, mr. gullible gullible guy. You little silly boy. So cute...little pumpkin. Kisses.
1. How many starting qbs have scores of 35 and above, You can see the chart in the previous postings. there is no correlation 2. You have never taken an IQ test evidently. A wonderlic test is designed to test a person's education background and test taking skills while an most if not all general IQ tests test one's ability to recognize patterns in a variety of ways. Whether that is through shapes, numbers or riddles 3. If you watch the Gruden camp video, the ball comes out very well. I won't be surprised if it is just as strong or stronger than those two 4. As I said again its only becomes apart of the equation if the score is unreasonably low, i.e Vince Young. As long as a qb can get on a board, learn the playbook and adapt to the myriad of coverages and defenses he may see (Bridgewater has demonstrated that time and time again in college), he will be fine Only people who have no clue of what they are talking (i.e not very smart people) will continue to harp on it or even attempt to include an average wonderlic as part of their overall analysis.
1. As I say again I trust his expertise over yours 2. On top of the fact that if a team or teams felt the need to leak unsatisfactory reports about Bridgewater's supposed workouts when he in fact only had one so far. I am inclined to believe that he most have had a pretty good work out then.
I'll just keep at this, because the rest of your post is kind of pointless and not relevant to what is important here. Who said that you need a 35? Nobody is saying that. And once you get past a certain point, it doesnt matter if you have a 28 or a 40. What matters is having at least the minimum. Just like you dont need a rocket arm, you need some minimum. Just like you dont need crazy accuracy, you need some minimum...right? When you score that low, it is a cause for concern. The average starting QB scores a 29 on the wonderlic. When you are that far below the average, you really need to be elite in other areas to succeed. I dont think Bridgewater has elite arm strength...I dont think he has elite athleticism. He has a lot stacked against him for someone that is being touted as a top 5 pick. Having said that, if he slips, I'd be all for the Texans trading back into the first round to take him. Panties should be untwisted, you little sex kitten.
Of course he knows more than I do...but he has every reason in the world to hype his client, even if it werent true. That's how the real world works. Lets not act like were that naive.
I'll get this out the way quick Whenever you refer to another grown man as a "little sex kitten" you have only brought up questions that only you yourself can answer 2. You have never taken an IQ test evidently. A wonderlic test is designed to test a person's education background and test taking skills while an most if not all general IQ tests test one's ability to recognize patterns in a variety of ways. Whether that is through shapes, numbers or riddles You have no clue what a wonderlic test is and it shows.
Ive taken plenty of IQ tests as well as wonderlic tests. If you think the wonderlic doesnt have questions that are similar to an IQ test, then maybe I can hold private lessons for you. $150/hr. Fact of the matter is that the wonderlic does have IQ style questions...like "Bob is taller than Cindy...Cindy is taller than Mike...is Mike taller than Bob or is Bob taller than Mike?" Not every IQ question is based around a square and circle...you little ravishing raven.
Not even close to a traditional IQ test in terms of depth. Just the facts brah, big part of the wonderlic test is understanding mathematical concepts. Not so much with an IQ test. Thats why genius babies can take an IQ test and be considered a genius but if they take the wonderlic test they would be completely lost.
