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I watched a Hagee Sermon Last night

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, May 14, 2008.

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  1. Invisible Fan

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    Some don't want to be useful idiots anymore. Hagee and his ilk likes things the way they are.

    http://www.anevangelicalmanifesto.com/docs/Evangelical_Manifesto.pdf
     
  2. rhester

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    As a pastor I apologize to all of you I come across as a know it all at times and a 'moral judge'- I shouldn't... I am sure of one thing as a representitive of Jesus Christ I am falling short... Jesus is not like what modern churches have made the religion of Christianity... there are real Christians, many... some of them may even be on TV... for me TV ministry misses the mark most times

    There is no political Jesus, there is no rich Jesus, Jesus didn't defend anything not even his own life... Jesus loved sinful men and women, he cared for the sick, the poor and the lost; he blessed little children, he spoke truth, he lived humbly, and he died sacrificially.

    I believe he disdains hypocrites and forgives the lowly, the least and the last.

    I love Jesus.
     
  3. thumbs

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    I'm probably the least qualified to respond, but someone should.

    Of course, you have nothing for which to apologize. I can't think of any poster who does not have great respect for your opinions.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    But McCain did seek his endorsement, because he needed the backing of the religious right.
     
  5. insane man

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    1.6 mil. which really isnt that crazy outside of the southwest.

    assume he had a regular house worth 600k already. 1 mil mortgage is what 5k a month? thats not that bad.
     
  6. Invisible Fan

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    It's likely that Wright could've made a lot more money as a cardiopulmonary technician.
     
  7. Major

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    Odd, given that McCain says he's proud of the endorsement here (last 5 seconds or so):

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    And, of course, he had this secret breakfast with him last year:

    http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/48397/
     
  8. glad_ken

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    McCain rejects Hagee endorsement

    In the face of mounting controversy over headline-grabbing statements from the Rev. John Hagee, CNN has learned that presumptive Republican nominee John McCain decided Thursday to reject his endorsement.

    McCain told CNN's Brian Todd that he rejected the endorsement after Todd brought to his attention Hagee's comments that Adolf Hitler had been fulfilling God's will by hastening the desire of Jews to return to Israel in accordance with biblical prophecy.

    "God says in Jeremiah 16: 'Behold, I will bring them the Jewish people again unto their land that I gave to their fathers. ... Behold, I will send for many fishers, and after will I send for many hunters. And they the hunters shall hunt them.' That would be the Jews. ... Then God sent a hunter. A hunter is someone who comes with a gun and he forces you. Hitler was a hunter," Hagee said, according to a transcript of his sermon.

    In a statement to CNN on Thursday, McCain said "Obviously, I find these remarks and others deeply offensive and indefensible, and I repudiate them. I did not know of them before Rev. Hagee's endorsement, and I feel I must reject his endorsement as well."

    Shortly after McCain's announcement Thursday afternoon, Hagee withdrew his endorsement, citing critics who had been "grossly misrepresenting" his positions.

    "I am tired of these baseless attacks and fear that they have become a distraction in what should be a national debate about important issues. I have therefore decided to withdraw my endorsement of Sen. McCain for president effective today, and to remove myself from any active role in the 2008 campaign," he said in a statement.

    "I hope that the Sen. McCain will accept this withdrawal so that he may focus on the issues that are most important to America and the world."

    McCain also said that his relationship with Hagee did not compare with Obama's lengthy association with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

    "I have said I do not believe Sen. Obama shares Rev. Wright's extreme views. But let me also be clear, Rev. Hagee was not and is not my pastor or spiritual adviser, and I did not attend his church for 20 years. I have denounced statements he made immediately upon learning of them, as I do again today," McCain said.

    The Arizona senator had renounced comments from Hagee that termed the Catholic Church "the great w****" and "an apostate church."

    Hagee is pastor of a 19,000-member evangelical church in San Antonio, Texas, and founder of a global Christian broadcast network.

    In a statement released before McCain rejected his endorsement, Hagee said his words had been taken out of context.

    "The intentional mischaracterization of my statements by an Internet journalist seeking to use me as a political football in the upcoming presidential race is a gross example of bias at its worst. I will not stand idly by while my character is assassinated and my views on the Holocaust are grossly distorted.

    "To assert that I in any way condone the Holocaust or that monster Adolf Hitler is the biggest and ugliest of lies. I have always condemned the horrors of the Holocaust in the strongest of terms." He also pointed to millions of dollars worth of donations his ministry had made to humanitarian efforts in Israel.

    Hagee has been a strong supporter of Israel for years. One prominent Jewish group does not believe that the pastor is anti-Semitic but is deeply concerned with the comments.

    "The notion that the Holocaust was part of God's plan ... as a way of punishing the Jews is a deeply, deeply troubling ... assertion to be repudiated by all people of conscience," said Rabbi David Saperstein of the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism.

    McCain has faced similar pressure to distance himself from the Rev. Rod Parsley over the minister's statement that Islam was "an antichrist religion that intends through violence to conquer the world."


    The Council on American-Islamic Relations is calling on McCain to repudiate Parsley's endorsement.

    A McCain spokesman says the senator rejects the remarks and adds that it's entirely inconsistent with what McCain believes. But the campaign is not rejecting the endorsement at the moment.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/22/mccain.hagee/index.html
     
  9. Invisible Fan

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    I'm glad McCain did it...even if he did ask for the endorsement in the first place.
     
  10. finalsbound

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    Man I have had such a problem with that pastor for so many years. EFF John Hagee for only preaching fire and brimstone fundamentalist bullsh!t. Every time I hear him he is either lambasting homosexuals or telling the pro-choice people they are going to hell. Well guess what, John Hagee, the body is the temple of the Spirit, according to the Bible, and you've definitely been doing your best to make yours as fat as possible!

    Worthless tub of lard.
     
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    On behalf of myself and other tubs of lard everywhere I am personally offended that you characterized Rev. Hagee as one of us.

    In way of apology...please send me a dozen donuts.
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    One pastor down. Hopefully McCain will denounce Parsley next.
     
  14. mc mark

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    WOW! John doubles down! Seems McCain cut Parsley loose this afternoon.

    Take that Barack!

    So going on Ellen this morning and dumping the Evangelicals!

    Good day for John McCain.
     
  15. flipmode

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    next stop, renewing the Black vote by going on Arsenio Hall! woopwoopwoop...

    wait,...
     
  16. MadMax

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    I'm with you....and yet it occurs to me that God even loves John Hagee. ;)

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  17. Haymitch

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    Prepare your anuses for the end times

    http://www.chron.com/news/local/art...ng-5391880.php?cmpid=houtexhcat#photo-1443754
     
  18. BigBenito

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    Katy should prepare to evacuate.
     
  19. BigBenito

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    And yes, that is a moon.
     
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    I've been waiting for someone to post this...

    Is this a Rita reference? I wasn't around back then...
     

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