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NBA Game Action: 4/8/2014

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Clutch, Apr 8, 2014.

  1. DonnyMost

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    Fingers hit the ball first, but man, 9 times out of 10 in the NBA that's a foul... and if you're LeBron, it's 99 times out of 100.
     
  2. cardpire

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    That was a block. Their hands touched after he blocked the dunk attempt with his fingers. Calling a foul their would have been sickening.

    Also, it seems obvious to me that there are a whole lot of people who can't cope with/don't want to give credit to a white guy stuffing King James' dunk attempt.

    Hell of a play.
     
  3. mfastx

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    Thought it was a pretty clear foul. Plumlee maybe got a finger or two on the ball, but mostly got hand.

    That being said, refs aren't gonna call that in the final seconds. The foul has to be a lot more blatant than that if they are gonna change the game with a call like that.
     
  4. wekko368

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    It was a foul. It's the same concept as hitting a jump-shooter on the arm during the follow-through.
     
  5. Pull_Up_3

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    no its not

    hand is part of the ball. Had he hit his wrist it couldve been a foul
     
  6. wekko368

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    If you hit a jump shooter on the hand during his follow through, it's still a foul.
     
  7. Pull_Up_3

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    u switched from arm to hand. Anyways he hit his hand while he still had the ball in his hand, not follow through
     
  8. khanhdum

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    both are different situations. Hand is consider part of the ball when you are in contact with the ball. When you foul a shooter on his follow through, you didn't make contact with the ball. Plumlee blocked the ball first and then went into the hand. As stated in NBA's rules:

    The hand is considered “Part of the ball” when it is in contact with the ball. It is not a foul if a defensive player makes normal contact with a players hand when it is in contact with the ball.
     
  9. wekko368

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    I switched from arm to hand b/c it allows for a better comparison without changing the argument.

    And Plumlee didn't hit Lebron's hand while he still had the ball. He first deflected the ball, and in his follow-through, he hit Lebron's wrist/hand.

    If a defender is called for a foul when he hits a jump-shooter on the hand during the shooter's follow-through, then Plumlee should've been called for a foul for hitting Lebron's wrist/hand. Same concept.
     
  10. wekko368

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    When Plumlee hit Lebron's wrist/hand, Lebron was no longer in contact with the ball.
     
  11. khanhdum

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    you're completely missing the point. When you block/deflect the ball and go into the hand, it's legal. At that point, the hand becomes part of the ball.
     
  12. wekko368

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    I'm not missing anything. Think about what you're saying. You're essentially trying to argue that the hand is part of the ball even when it's not in contact with the ball (having been deflected away).

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    How can you argue that Lebron's hand is part of the ball?
     
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  13. khanhdum

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    you're going frame for frame, of course you can show he hit his hand after the ball has been deflected. Anytime you hit the ball and going into the hand, there will be contact with the opposing hand since the ball has been deflected. how about you showing when he deflected the ball when his hand was on the ball, and plumlee got it cleanly? lol you're showing the aftermath of it. If there was any foul, it should have been on JJ.
     
  14. el gnomo

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    fify :grin:
     
  15. ferrari77

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    Seems obvious to me that you're reaching and also not realizing that there are still a lot of King James haters out there that are reveling in the fact that he didn't get a foul called in his favour and that he got blocked on that play to end the game.
     
  16. adobo

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    It's 50/50, but really who calls those type of fouls with less than 3 seconds on the play?
     

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