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Channing Frye on Goran Dragic: "Unfortunately for the Rockets, they didn't make the right decision."

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by nrsair12, Apr 8, 2014.

  1. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    Oh - Jeremy Lin. I had almost forgotten about him.
     
  2. bluffkin

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    Dragic is better than Parsons, Parsons can't create for himself.

    Different positions I know but Dragic would be awesome.
     
  3. ForTheWinYes

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    Honestly, it made no sense for Morey to give Dragic that contract. It was the right decision but turned out poorly. It looks even worse because Morey turned around and signed Lin to a pretty bad contract, though it's not negatively effecting any flexibility the Rockets have.

    Either way, Dragic will be a free agent when the Rockets have max cap space so if they want him back, they'll have that chance.
     
  4. hotballa

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    In all seriousness, is the pining over Dragic driven by the fact that he is a white point guard whereas Lowry is black? It befuddles me as to why noone kills Lowry or McHale for effing up the Lowry situation, but yet got so connected to Dragic despite the fact he has had only one good year in Phoenix. Not trolling, I'm just trying to figure out why people got so connected to Dragic, but not Lowry
     
  5. hotballa

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    edit to above " It befuddles me as to why noone kills Moreyor McHale"
     
  6. THE DR34M

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    Who cares now. Only kids still pining for Dragic. Move on nothing to see here.
     
  7. LosPollosHermanos

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    That's because Lowry better us harden .
     
  8. LosPollosHermanos

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    Stupid autocorrect.
     
  9. Old Man Rock

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    I said it then and I'll repeat it now, why trade for him if you were going to let him walk. They could have resolved this before the season begin. Instead they wishy washed with him and then showed he wasn't seriously in their plans.

    The second they attempted to trade him for CP3 and it failed he was gone. He wasn't going to take less to stay with a team who showed no loyalty to him at all. It's a business and his eyes were opened wide when Houston dumped him. Not saying it wasn't the right move, in hindsight it wasn't but the bottom line that move meant no bargain deals for Goran. They should gave him everything he wanted knowing he earned his contract.

    It's okay, just shows you what happens when you allow the owner to meddle too much in player decisions. The money to Lin as opposed to Dragic is not that big a difference. So really not about that. But I was on record wanting to keep Dragic before the season started of his last year here. And clearly Lin is not the PG we hoped for and Dragic has evolved into an all star.
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    We got a great draft pick from the Lowry trade that for flipped into Harden.

    Goran left for nothing in return and we signed another PG for a little less (granted without a team option).

    I personally like Lowry better, but that trade was not a mistake.
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    It was about the player option and Goran not quite developing yet.
     
  12. vator

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    Hey Channing Frye! I need to tell you something right quick...



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  13. forchette49

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    Don't agree that letting him walk was a bad decision, his numbers are inflated on a bad PHX team. They rely on him to score far more than we would with Howard and Harden on this roster, plus Beverly may have never been plucked from Europe and placed on this team. I'm happy with the way things played out. Next year will be Linn and Asik's last with this team, having the best on-ball defender in the league and a budding offensive threat in Canaan behind him will be just fine with me going forward. Our main concern will be locking up Parsons long-term and, yet again, finding a reliable back up center.
     
  14. Pukimonster

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    I don't think it's murder but it does diminish stats which is why these 1's blow up afterwards. Rockets are elite at pick and roll but don't run it enough. When they do, the ball handler can be the 1, 2, or 3 which is why you have Parsons doing 3-4 pnr. And when they do, they usually don't hit the rollman all that much because outside of Howard and Greg Smith, no one can catch. If they run pick and pop with Jones/D-Mo, those guys are not threats.

    Contrast with Phoenix, where Dragic and Bledsoe alternate pnr ballhandler duties and Bledsoe's been injured this year. Dragic has run more than twice as many pnp's with Frye than any Rockets ballhandlers have run pnr's with Howard. If you gave any ballhandler on the Rockets that many pick and roll possessions with a willing rollman or popper, his points and assists would skyrocket. If Dragic was on the Mavericks running league high pnp's with Dirk, he'd look even better.

    So yeah, if Lin went to another team that specialized in pnr, his stats would blow up and people would be like, I told you so. But that's just not how this Rockets team is built.

    Vice versa, you put Dragic with this squad, which would immediately cut in his pnr possessions in half and pair him with no one who can pop, hardly anyone would be talking about him right now.
     
  15. jordnnnn

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    This just doesn't make any sense and your last line is just plain false. Brooks, Lowry and Goran all had great stretches of play for this team. Most of their better play when they moved on can be attributed to continued growth as a player and probably more than anything, opportunity.

    They have all moved on to different teams and individually done better, but The Rockets TEAM is better than any team they are on and The Rockets will most likely continue to be better than any team that features those guys as top options.

    If Lin goes on to a new team and is statistically better individually, good for him. But I can just about guarantee it will be on a worse team than ours. It doesn't make our system bad or wrong. Our team is good. The system works.
     
  16. WinkFan

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    If we don't get the pick for Lowry, we can't get Harden. We could have Harden, Howard, and Dragic. There's no way we could have had Harden, Howard and Lowry. Duh. Pay a little attention to what's going on.
     
  17. naesoon

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    Yes! Thank you for clarifying this! People get so hung up on just the numbers, but they don't look at how the player is used, how much they're used, who their teammates are and what type of team they're on.
     
  18. AVoiceInACrowd

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    When you say "some people saw much better odds than Morey did", your talking about fans, because it certainly wasn't the other gms, since none of the others offered a better contract than Phoenix.

    No rational person saw him shooting 50-40 at a high rate of attempts this year. You just can't reliably predict that. Even Phoenix didn't, since I read about trade rumors for Goran early in the year after they signed Bledsoe.

    Morey didn't make a "mistake". At least not one that every other gm didn't make.
     
  19. WinkFan

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    Take a look at what Dragic and Lowry were doing before they got to Houston. Besides, we weren't running our offense the same way then anyway.
     
  20. THE DR34M

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    Dragic who cares? Is he even gonna be in the playoffs this year? Or has he ever been in the playoffs? Good luck to him.
     

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