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Is Jeremy Lin the Asian Jackie Robinson of our time?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RedRedemption, Apr 5, 2014.

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LIN == JACKIE ROBINSON?

  1. Yes.

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  2. No.

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  1. krnxsnoopy

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    Multiple tantrums at JLin because I think he's a stand-up guy and I like the dude? I know he has flaws but he's not a max contract player and max contract results shouldn't be expected. He gets more than a unfair rap around here.

    By the way, check my posts on the D&D with extensive conversation with CometsWin. Any objective person will see who the racist is. I only pointed out the hypocrisy and holes of his arguments.
     
  2. Nanisteru

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    Well done... because you just spat out nonsense. ;)
     
  3. King1

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    Well, I consider Asians to typically be very intelligent and can't say I stereotype them in anything more then a positive manner. I'm not worried about pro athlete back and forth because that barely factors into the real world.

    You honestly tell me a kid who went to Harvard and has made millions in the NBA has "struggled" and I will laugh.
     
  4. King1

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    I have said the same about Lin. Just because I don't like him as a player doesn't mean I don't respect him as a person. You need to be able to separate the two.

    I don't need to do so. Again, you went to the race card. I went to war for Yao but that doesn't mean I am some Asian rights advocate. I thought he was a good player. I defended Battier too. Doesn't mean I'm at the Million man march. You are far too emotionally invented in something you should be. Jeremy Lin (the basketball player) is on trial here
     
  5. krnxsnoopy

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    Like I said, where is your proof? You're calling me a racist so you must have some reason why, right? Show me proof.

    1K tip jar sounds nice and all but putting money on the line by itself it doesn't make an argument stronger.

    I retracted calling you racist because I'm giving you the benefit of doubt when you said you've been critical of both Mayweather and Pac. I might not have seen enough of your posts, hence the sample size. So since now you're still calling me a racist, the burden of proof is on you. Show me proof.
     
  6. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I just said they are not comparing him to Jackie Robinson. Re-read what I wrote please.

    It's not about Lin's experiences and what Lin went through to get to the NBA or how good he is or racism or anything like that. They aren't claiming that Lin is a hero for breaking any kind of segregationist color barrier - that's what everyone is presuming and jumping the gun to conclude. They are just saying the same way Jackie Robinson was an inspiration to blacks during that era for being the first guy to play in the big leagues, they feel that Lin is an inspiration for being the first Asian American to play in the NBA - and they just want him to do well because of it.

    I don't get why everyone is trying to distort that into this whole thing about Lin not having dealt with x or y. That's a straw man.
     
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  7. King1

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    Lol at you retracted calling me racist like that's just something you can causally toss out there and take back
     
  8. Nanisteru

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    I think he'll just ignore you. :(
     
  9. krnxsnoopy

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    He most likely struggled more to get into the NBA. That was the topic of discussion. Not whether he had a single mother growing up in the hood and didn't have food on the table to eat. Two totally different issues here.
     
  10. krnxsnoopy

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    Lol. There's this thing that happens in discussions where people come to a consensus or get closer to a middle ground, or atleast that is the hope. Taking back or changing my stance that I might have prematurely called you a racist, based on the sample size I have, doesn't affect the legitimacy of the other comments I've made. I still stand by my comments about CometsWin.

    However, since you are still convinced I'm a racist, the burden of proof is on you to support that claim. Otherwise I expect you to retract you calling me a racist.

    If you refuse to retract calling me a racist, provide some proof. Otherwise you should just shut up.
     
  11. Invisible Fan

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    This is a pretty sad ****ing thread. I'm sick of this binary crap of either Lin's a legend or not even good enough to be in the league.

    The sad truth to why this is lingering like a trash can full of diapers is because Jeremy is inconsistently mediocre with random exciting flashes of promise. That's bull**** drama you deal with with lotto teams where hope has died out, and its fans create several useless threads to distract themselves until the lotto balls drop.

    I'm pretty sure there are many people of all races with Lin's story of being over looked by the league despite being able to make it. Wrong people/scouts at the wrong place at the wrong time.

    I admit to being compelled how he got overlooked or snubbed despite winning California HS Div 2 player of the year or his random flashes of promise at Harvard, which could be because of him getting stereotyped, but I doubt his story is exclusive to his own for all of the hundreds of thousands of aspiring NBA players in the face of a league that welcomes only .0005% of them.

    Lin is currently a middle of the pack player with the dreams and aspirations of being a HOF, let-alone championship caliber starter on top of him. I don't think Eduardo Najera (#2) had that kind of expectation heaped onto him.

    People just have to chill and come with the idea that Linsanity might not happen again. It's somewhat empowering and it removes the silliness of racial motivations behind your favorite player's performance. It's getting more divisive and poisonous than what the facts of the situation should allow, filthy rich people playing basketball in a team headed towards home court in the playoffs.

    He already made history. It's inevitable that Asian American players follow him, and I really hope this kind of crap doesn't get repeated over again and again when it does.
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    Why is this crap thread in the GARM anyways. Why do we need to discuss racist asians, blacks, whites etc here? Leave that **** in the D&D.
     
  13. conquistador#11

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    Can lin hit a curve ball? Jesus can and so could jackie robinson!


    what lin is missing is a mean streak, he should be the asian ahole. instead of picking up manu after a cheap foul, he should accidentally hit his nose. (and I love manu.)
     
  14. don grahamleone

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    Ironicalism?

    Anyhoo, here's something you Lin fans probably don't give a ***** about: Omri Casspi is the first Israeli player to ever play in an NBA game. And he doesn't get much playing time. In fact, far less than Jeremy Lin. He's not entitled to minutes because the Israelis have it so easy in this world, I guess... :rolleyes:

    Racism, though it exists within the black hearts of many, is not Jeremy's worst enemy. It was Jackie's. STFU with the comparisons.
     
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    What does anything I wrote have to do with racism even? You guys need to take Reading Comprehension 101. My whole point is that it's not a comparison and not about racism. Geez.
     
  16. krnxsnoopy

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    Relevance?
     
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    This, like holy shet I don't need to hear about his struggles when he was in high school or linsanity for that matter. Seriously, his story is great or what not and i felt bad for him for not getting scouted, but he obviously isn't the only one. I mean for Christ's sake Chandler Parsons fell to the second round even though, and I bet you anything people could've said people underestimated his athletic potential because of his race but don't.

    Lin is a mediocre pg in the league with flashes of brilliance and extreme inconsistency. There really needs to be less drama about him over nothing, there's no need to bump the Lin is a joke thread after every bad game he has win or lose, there's also no need to bicker about him in the game threads and distract people from the game.
     
  18. Easy

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    Why am I not surprised that this thread has become a racial finger pointing mess?
     
  19. krnxsnoopy

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    What else would you expect from a thread titled "Is Jeremy Lin the Asian Jackie Robinson of our time?"
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I think Lin = Tiger Woods works a whole lot better. Except Lin didn't turn out to be as good as Woods and cheated on his wife...
     

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