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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Apr 4, 2014.

  1. jim1961

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    I really hate the team nickname "The Halos".
     
  2. Nick

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    Who knows with this management. Harrell probably should have never made this team out of ST, yet here he is making a start.
     
  3. Nick

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    Adventures in RF with Bob Grossman... Springer would definitely be an upgrade immediately.
     
  4. cardpire

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    Robbie Grossman playing RF like there's swirling 20mph winds.
     
  5. Roc Paint

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    Let the games begin. :confused:
     
  6. Nick

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    Hoes must be scratching his head as to why he can't crack the lineup after his great opening day game... I understand the need to platoon and play the lefty-righty thing, but I feel they're going out of their way to get Krause/Pressley AB's that they don't necessarily deserve.
     
  7. jim1961

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    Thanks Lucas

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Harrell done after 3 IP. 7 H, 4 ER, 3 BB, 3 SO, 1 HR. Harrell threw 76/38 — exactly half for strikes. Jerome Williams on.</p>&mdash; Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) <a href="https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/statuses/452254570660388864">April 5, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  9. Fulgore

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    Folty up by May? We can only hope.
     
  10. bigtexxx

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    After last season, why the hell is Harrell in the starting rotation?

    Peacock, please.
     
  11. cardpire

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    Aggravating to even think about.

    Peacock was one of the lone bright spots of the final stretch of last season.
     
  12. Nick

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    It is odd that this regime thus far seems to give plenty of chances/opportunities to guys who are underperforming/undeserving (Brett Wallace, Lucas Harrell)... while suppressing the "young talent" for reasons unknown (and certainly not their performance).

    Grossman really doesn't have a clue out there on how to play RF.

    Bad baseball all-around tonight.
     
  13. Major

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    It's asset management. If they see potential in the guys, they will give them some time to figure it out - it would be silly to give up on Harrell if they see potential, especially given his pretty good 2012. Wandy Rodriguez is an example of a guy the organization saw something in and stuck with through some terrible years to get a great payoff in the end. Just about all of us wanted him gone after his first two years, but the team clearly saw something we didn't.

    It was difficult then because the team was in contention and he was really hurting them. It makes even more sense now to give players a longer leash since the results don't really matter as much to management.
     
  14. cardpire

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    The beginning of the season isn't the time for evaluation process of also-rans. He lost his spot in the rotation, and Peacock was great from the moment he was brought back up last year. He earned the spot.

    The same measures of evaluating Harrell could have been attained by letting him pitch long relief (or starting in the minors).
     
  15. Nick

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    Wandy was never as bad as Harrell has been... and I'm all for letting a guy steadily "improve", but Harrell has steadily regressed. He's a shell of what he was in 2012... no control, he's missing all over the place... and he's pitching in a league now (AL) where guys like him get taken to the wood-shed. (Wandy had a little bit more lee-way, being a lefty and playing in a more forgiving division/league).

    Again, they tried this same thing with Brett Wallace last year, and it was a gigantic waste of time... Luhnow is still relatively naive in terms of managing MAJOR league players, and trying to figure out when a player can be salvaged and when its time to move on.

    I'd rather they give other potential "assets" their chance over a guy who has too many chances already.
     
  16. CometsWin

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    He's had one start.
     
  17. cardpire

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    Say wha??
     
  18. Nick

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    Are you serious?

    Go back and watch his TWENTY TWO starts from last year, and prepare to be impressed as he walks as many guys as he K's.

    He's 29... his stuff isn't likely to get "better". And even if you give him the benefit of the doubt for "improving" from last year, he still looked bad in the spring, shouldn't have been given a spot in the rotation, and continued last year's trends tonight.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Fowler currently in hospital Porter says</p>&mdash; Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) <a href="https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/statuses/452296325703299072">April 5, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  20. CometsWin

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    He's had one start this year. Last year is over. You don't have someone win a job out of the spring and then cut them after one start. You're being ridiculous. Take a breath or something, it's a long season.


    This team sucks, Harrell or not. If he pitches well we may be able to trade him. If he keeps sucking then he'll get cut, so what?
     

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