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The war on women continues...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bmd, Apr 3, 2014.

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  1. Mr. Clutch

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    You have a point somewhere, I suppose?

    Probably the same one bmd was making, except opposite.
     
  2. Invisible Fan

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    Make love not war on women.

    Turns that frown upside down.
     
  3. Hmm

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    Never heard of someone referring to it that way...
     
  4. mc mark

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    Since when did conservatives become such bedwetters?
     
  5. Nook

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    "Don't blame Wall Street, blame youuuselfff."
     
  6. Dubious

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    Because there are a lot more ways for men to make a living wage without a degree than for women?
     
  7. NewRoxFan

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    I am looking forward to the GOP using this story in campaigns... good luck with this!
     
  8. supdudes

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    I remember a study awhile back stating that young boys were 3 times more likely to drop out of schools than young girls.

    Call me a cynic, but there might be some link with the feminization of education. No gym classes, everything being PC, and disallowing boys to be boys definitely play a role imo.
     
  9. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    holy crap this thread is a dumpster.
     
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  10. Deckard

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    Link?
     
  11. Summer Song Giver

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    I know a lot of men who work while their wife/gf seems to be endlessly educating themselves on their man's dime.
     
  12. Haymitch

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    FIFY.
     
  13. JuanValdez

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    The war on women doesn't seem like a big theme in the D&D in general, so I don't know why you're bringing this little factoid here of all places.

    But, more generally, the arguments made by economists, sociologists and the like who argue persistent sexual discrimination do detailed, robust statistical analyses to try to show how gender bias has measurable real-world impacts on people's lives. You've given us a gender ratio of college education in an age-slice of the population. You haven't controlled for other factors, provided any context, or done any analysis on the reasons why the ratio is what it is. For anyone who really wants to know what's going on with gender discrimination, this ratio would be worse than useless if it wasn't so transparently misleading.
     
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  14. Major

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    Funny that you think this is a salient and useless fact. And that you are too smart for everyone else. It couldn't just be that you aren't actual capable of having a legit discussion because you, well, don't know things, could it? See JV's response to the original point. Amusing that you actually thought that the original statement was a good argument of any sort.
     
  15. bmd

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    Here is a report titled "An Analysis of Reasons for the Disparity in Wages Between Men and Women" by the U.S. Department of Labor and CONSAD Research Corp. The whole 90 page PDF file of the report is here: http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf

    But to save you massive amounts of reading, I took a screenshot of the foreward by the U.S. Department of Labor, which summarizes the overall point:

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  16. FranchiseBlade

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    bmd, I think this post makes it about as clear and concise as possible. The thread starting post misses the mark enough that it makes it difficult to discuss anything about the post.

    I will say that women getting degrees more than males in no way shows that there are not any gender related difficulties faced by females.
     
  17. bmd

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    Isn't this the place where we post about politics, gender/race issues, etc?

    You are acting like I'm trying to stick it to the liberal posters on the D&D. I was making light of the "war on women" meme where people act like women are some oppressed group. The "war on women" meme is used in politics all the time. It's relevant to politics. Has nothing to do with the D&D.
     
  18. JuanValdez

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    This would have been a better OP.

    You opened the thread in a combative stance, but it wasn't clear what you wanted to fight about or why we should want to fight you. And now that I know what you want to fight about, I still don't want to fight you. But, if you're wondering why you get such a poor reception and no one wants to talk about the subject at hand, this is why. You came in swinging.
     
  19. bmd

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    I was expecting that. Liberals wanted to fight. Conservatives wouldn't.

    I would have gotten the same response no matter what.
     
  20. Major

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    If you post stupid things with no thinking or reasoning behind it, of course you should expect that type of response. You think people are going to try to have a rational debate with someone that posts nonsense? :confused:

    Again, re-read JV's post and you'll understand the type of content you should provide if you want to actually try to have an educated discussion.
     

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