That was a tax for sailors only. Not the whole country. But I'm not sure about the source anyway. It's one historians opinion. It's far from fact. Historians disagree all the time.
As noted earlier, the Militia Act of 1792 required all able-bodied men to buy guns and ammo. What does "sailors only" matter anyway? Is there a certain number of people that it's OK to force to buy something? What is that number? Besides, the health care law doesn't require everyone to buy to anything. Only adults that don't have health insurance elsewhere and aren't poor or exempt in other ways. It's a far smaller population than "able-bodied men".
There was in fact a law passed and signed by John Adams so that's a fact. When you find historians that disagree about Jefferson, and the others then that's a valid point. The story was from Fobres which is hardly a liberal bastion. From the thread title I thought the discussion was about the issue of the govt. forcing people to buy things. The govt. in fact forced people to buy insurance. The fact that it was only a segment of the population doesn't change the fact that govt. did in fact force people to buy things. And these were the founding fathers.
Bottom line, it is still a requirement and that the govt. can mandate for us to buy things. The protection is there so that ALL drivers will be financially responsible just in case something bad happens. Otherwise, just like health, other people will end up paying for bills that wasn't really theirs.
Except, you can't choose to not be sick or get into an accident. The premise of mandating auto insurance is no different than health. That is not what's driving health care costs. Expensive surgeries and maintenance drugs for things that could have prevented if they were diagnosed early is where the bulk of it is. It makes sense to give people incentive to get checked up every so often. Proactive is always much better than reactive.
Requiring auto insurance is a state law. It isn't a federal law. So it really isn't even an applicable argument.
So because somebody disobeyed the Constitution a long time ago that means it should be allowed today? And no, it is not a "far smaller population" than able-bodied men. Because it requires all men and women to have health insurance.
This is your thread, be an adult and respond to the arguments instead of whining that no one agrees with your fake rhetorical question.
How long they been forcing us to buy car insurance? Why is this on ya mind now. . . . all of a sudden like? Rocket River
Maybe you need to rethink how you look at the constitution. The people who passed those laws were the ones that actually wrote and put together the constitution. I think they had a more secure idea of what they meant with that document. Also nobody is required to buy anything. People can chose not to buy the insurance and then make a payment instead. Every individual is free to choose to do that if they wish.
Even back then there were many who didn't agree with parts of the Constitution. It wasn't like they all agreed. There were huge disagreements back then just like now. As for your other point, you are being forced to either buy something, or pay a fine in lieu of that thing.
Health insurance should be required because it is a certainty that every human will use healthcare at some point. This is to protect the taxpayers who shouldn't have to pay the medical bills of someone who chooses not to carry insurance.
Yes there were disagreements. Do you have any evidence to provide that the disagreements were on the acts mentioning where govt. forced citizens to buy insurance, weapons and arms? Even if there was information about that do you have evidence to show that the acts requiring those purchases were ultimately decided to be unconstitutional? The fact that there was debate about the constitution and acts of congress back then don't really change the fact that many of the fathers of the country felt fine about compelling citizens to buy things. And you are correct, you have the choice to buy or to pay a fine. You still aren't forced to buy something and have a choice.
