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James Harden the Best Guard in Rockets History?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Orange, Mar 26, 2014.

  1. Spacemoth

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    LOL my thoughts exactly.

    Tracy in a Rockets uniform represents nothing but disappointment. He never lived up to the numbers he put up for two seasons in Orlando. And then when we gave him a true second superstar he took it upon himself to shine only when the other guy was out. When everybody else on the team was healthy, he crumbled under the pressure. He recused himself from our team, and without him we went to the second round for the first time in a decade. In the spectrum of playoff shortcomings, McGrady is an entire magnitude beneath Chris Paul, and eons away from guys like Barkley, Malone, Ewing...people we traditionally criticize in such a manner.

    The book is still out on Harden, but that's his best asset. Time. He still has a ton of it to leave his mark. We'll see what happens. Until then, Drexler #1 HELL YEA CLUBBIN BABY SEALS.

    He called Terrence Jones Keith Jones tonight, and Worrell and Bullard just remained silent, dumbfounded for a good 5 seconds lol. I still remember his playing days though, nothing he does after the fact will change my memory of his greatness.
     
  2. SacTown

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    Harden is nowhere near Tmac... Come on
     
  3. rocketsballin

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    remember tmac shut down dirk in the playoffs when he guarded him. strange tho, harden at 6'5 WANTS to guard pfs and does a good job

    i spoke too fast tho. tmac only had one true healthy superstar year with rockets. so harden is on pace for 2nd best behind clyde.
     
  4. tinman

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    that's because Harden made it to the NBA Finals on last team.

    thank goodness Morey got some superstars with Finals experience.
     
  5. tinman

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    This is a great post, you may have restored my faith in the 07ers. you know of the truth.
     
  6. peleincubus

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    Referring to your other post. I agree with what you said to an extent. But there is a reason that the lakers didn't win last year they are as old as dirt. Same reason that Barkley Hakeem and seeker didn't win. If they were all in there mid 20's or late 20's prime they could have probably swept the bulls.

    But if tmac would have been drafted by the lakers and had a healthy shaq they would have won at least once. And tmac went to the magic and grant hill was a max player and they never played together. And then he came here with a young Yao Ming and then by the time Yao was getting really good he was injured and tmac's was over and done with.
     
  7. tinman

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    Dude, what's up the the hypotheticals ? Vegas odds were high in the lakers before the season started with Dwight .

    Are you practicing for a programming test ? Lots of IF THEN statements

    Who cares if tmac would have drafted by the lakers ?
    He got drafted the raptors where his cousin played on a good team and he left.
    History shows when the going gets tough tmac leaves.

    Dream went through a tough period between the 86 team and clutch city, but he stuck around.
     
  8. Andrew Wiggins

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    That post was in response to the guy who tried to compare harden at 24 to mcgrady at 18 and 34.

    Way to be a toh, though. Always using one argument and abandoning it the instant it is used against you.
     
  9. Andrew Wiggins

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    Jeremy lin would have made it to the wcf on that team if you switch him with harden. Guess that makes him a legend.
     
  10. Andrew Wiggins

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    This thread sucks. Tinman and co. are using harden to bash mcgrady.

    Mcgrady was the best small forward in rockets history. Ha. What now?
     
  11. tinman

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    Don't turn into a TOF.

    You see a pattern of hypothetical situations as defense for a reality of lack of success?

    If
    Would
    Could

    The tmac glossary of excuses.


    There is no special treatment because mcgrady had talent. Lots of people had talent in nba history.

    If mcgrady kicked a dog, people here would blame the dog.
     
  12. tinman

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    When you see mcgrady threads you notice a theme of failure .
    When you see a Hakeem thread you notice a theme of success.

    Hell go in the dish, see threads about lebron, Duncan, Jordan, Kobe, what's the theme? Success

    Bashing is something you do to a potato.
    Telling historical true facts is what you do to win a basketball topic.
     
  13. Yung-T

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    Tinman, you never win any topic. You argue like a child, only use the facts that support your point, twist things while watering facts down in a dramatic way and leaving out all the crucial things that **** on your idiotic ideas. Also, you always avoid commenting on posts that bring up valid facts that destroy your statements.
     
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    Calvin Murphy is getting too little love in a thread like this. He's in the basketball hall of fame, and spent his career with the Rockets....
     
  15. rocketsjudoka

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    Tinman, You know I love how you are the keeper of Rockets history but when it comes to criticizing T-Mac I think that dead horse has been whipped enough. There isn't any hide on the horse and any meat left has long since turned to horse jerky.
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm surprised that Mad Max is getting so little love either. While he's not the legend that Clyde or Calvin was (and hopefully someday Harden) the guy was one of the Rockets' best shooting guards and one of the few players who could get into Jordan's head.
     
  17. jtr

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    I believe it is obviously to early to crown Harden as the best guard in Rockets history. But a few more seasons like this one and a couple of deep playoff runs and the verdict would be clear. The guy could be the best SG in the league for another 5 seasons easily.
     
  18. Deckard

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    As for guys like Murph and Max, I could have mentioned them and others, but decided to simply reply to the topic. Harden just hasn't played long enough as a Rocket to merit "best ever" consideration. Frankly, I'm surprised that this is even up for discussion.
     
  19. FoOLiSh_AzN

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    t-mac's 1st season with the rockets was IMO better. Sadly, t-mac's greatness only lasted 1 season with the Rockets. T-mac at his best was his last 2 Orlando years and 1st year with Houston (prime years for him) after that it was a straight downfall.

    Clyde Drexler was the 2nd best player on a championship team but he was past his prime. it's hard not to give Clyde some love.

    James Harden had 2 great seasons with the Rockets. He has a chance to be the best shooting guard in Rockets history, just give him time to play and lead the Rockets to greatness.
     
  20. conquistador#11

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    if he can get 3 championships, he would definitely be the greatest rocket of allll time nevermind the best rocket.
     

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