just for the record, talking about Manziel's attributes is not the same as trashing Bridgewater or saying that he doesn't have some of the same attributes. the Bridgewater fanaticism, paranoia, and defensiveness is ridiculous. the thread was a about Manziel ...who had a great pro day if you haven't already heard.
Pro days are not indicative of future success. Pro days are not indicative of future success. Pro days are not indicative of future success. Pro days are not indicative of future success. Pro days are not indicative of future success. Pro days are not indicative of future success. Pro days are not indicative of future success. Pro days are not indicative of future success.
What, are you saying judging someones entire future on one day is unreasonable? What should we look at instead, their entire body of work? Pfft.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kevin Durant on Johnny Manziel: "I'd take him in the top five, if I was a GM". KD's full comments on JFF: <a href="http://t.co/w0xWsGjvki">http://t.co/w0xWsGjvki</a></p>— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) <a href="https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/statuses/449303196532367360">March 27, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Gus Bradley on Manziel "The guy's special. He's very competitive, very spirited and brings a lot of energy. He was real impressive."</p>— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/statuses/449303345908310016">March 27, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Norv Turner on Manziel "He's got a strong arm, and he was amazingly accurate. He showed all the things he needed to throw."</p>— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/statuses/449303789619539968">March 27, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Bill Polian on Manziel "magnificent arm strength, electric feet, great accuracy. He has magic. It's hard to find players with magic."</p>— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/statuses/449304290792714240">March 27, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Thats manning and ryan had poor pro days and montana was flat out poor While the likes of russell and leaf had some of the best pro days ever
I wonder if Manziel will rise up the boards now. The media drives certain players, but in the end, the draft always seems to be completely different. Manziel might be a Texan. I just don't think Bortles will be that pick.
GIF's of some of his throws from Pro Day: <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Johnny Manziel's first bomb. Nails it. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NFL&src=hash">#NFL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Aggies&src=hash">#Aggies</a> <a href="https://t.co/8EV2KIveqj">https://t.co/8EV2KIveqj</a></p>— Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/statuses/449214200540561408">March 27, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Manziel&src=hash">#Manziel</a> roll out from undercover center. <a href="https://t.co/mmaEQ0TGFr">https://t.co/mmaEQ0TGFr</a></p>— Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/statuses/449213691683430401">March 27, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Manziel in left flat to Mike Evans. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NFL&src=hash">#NFL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Aggies&src=hash">#Aggies</a> <a href="https://t.co/NCNfxXdt0O">https://t.co/NCNfxXdt0O</a></p>— Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChronBrianSmith/statuses/449213411956908033">March 27, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Gus Bradley sure is talking up Johnny... If the Texans don't draft him he may not have to worry about falling to the 2nd round.
Pro days can affect how teams feel about a player to a degree, but that's not the same thing as it being an accurate barometer of a players career. By now we've all heard about crappy QBs who had great pro days and great QBs who had crappy pro days. It's a piece of the puzzle, just not a large one when one compared a players entire body of work. Johnny had an impressive day, but the questions around him like how well he can actually read a defense or his willingness to stay in the pocket in the face of pressure (brooms don't count) can't be answered in a workout like this. So while he looked good in what he did, the questions that existed about him before are still there. Also, GM's and coaches do get to sit down and talk with/interview the prospect in a more in depth way than they're allowed to at the combine. That might actually play as big a role in things as the actual workout.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Gruden to Manziel: "All the people that say you can't read a defense can kiss my ass."</p>— Josh Norris (@JoshNorris) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshNorris/statuses/449332391166099456">March 27, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Yeah I was watching the QB camp and that made me chuckle. Ask me about 3 months ago who I wanted #1 and I was borderline clowney/bridgewater I've started leaning towards JFF lately tho.
That was a very entertaining qb camp. Even my gf sat and watched it with me. Loved the comment by Gruden that the people who say he can't read a defense can kiss his ass.
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