I don't wanna rain on your sort of good deed but I still don't see how her predicament justifies her bad service. I'm already paying for it. I don't need to shoulder their problems.
A better way to save money would be to pickup your food from the restaurant or cook your own. That way you dont have to quibble about tips.
Btw none of my workers who get tips would ever go for this even if i raised their hourly pay to $10/hr. They typically clear about $12-$15 an hour wages and tips.
The thing that really annoys me about tips is that is based on the price of my food. So if I order an expensive item that requires no extra work from the waiter I need to tip more? Instead of spending $50 I spend $75 because I get a steak instead of the fish and now I'm out another $5 on the tip? I think the system should be more set rates. Low End Restaurant: $2 standard, $5 exception service Middle Restaurant: $5 standard, $15 exceptional service High End Restaurant: $15 standard, $25 exceptional service With the customer free to add more as they see fit.
Wow, some of yall are real dicks about tipping. Should probably stay home if you feel so strongly against it. I mainly tip because I know customers can be difficult and huge assholes and waiters have to deal with them all day. As long as I get my food, I'm good. No need to wait on me with hand and foot.
How are standards in japan relevant to here in America? You speak of logic but your argument makes no sense.
It's global standards saying they're a service oriented nation. Everyone who comes to Japan says their service is terrific.
I agree. Normally, I would have left her a bare minimum tip. But I just had this urge to tip her a ridiculous amount as if to indirectly say, "Don't take your problems out on me." But in a nice way.
I hate this line of thinking so much. Retail workers deal with extremely ******* customers all day long and they don't get tipped. Fast food workers deal with ******* customers all day long and they don't get tipped. Grocery store workers really deal with assholes all day long and don't get tipped. Most service industry workers deal with complete assholes all day long and don't get tipped. Before anyone says anything, let me point out that I always (unless it's unbearable to the extreme bad service) tip well. But not because I feel bad for the workers or any ridiculous reasoning. I do it simply because it's a societal and cultural norm. I honestly feel like i'm genuinely, meaning I actually really appreciated and enjoyed the service, tipping only less than half of the time. I just do it because I know it's the right thing to do due to how we as a society have made the system. I love when I travel to other countries and receive hospitable service regardless of tip (since it is not required) because service industry employees are just expected to do their job and make a damn fine effort taking care of their customers because that is their cultural/societal norm. That way I can tip on my own terms whenever I really feel someone went especially out of their way to be accommodating and helpful. It feels more like the right way. Edit - Btw just to clarify, I didn't mean for that to come across as rude to your viewpoints, Victorious. I personally just don't agree with it.
You do realize that out of the list of workers you mentioned, only waiters make less than minimum wage. They make like $2.12 per hour. All their income is from tips. And they are taxed by the IRS based on assumed tips. If you don't tip them, they are still being taxed for what you don't give them. They are losing money. Waiters in other countries are given a real wage, unlike here.
Mm, yes. That's why I pointed out that I tip them well because I know we have a broken ass system whereas other countries do not. But I've noticed lots of my friends point out that they always feel bad for wait staff because they have to deal with rude customers all day long as if that in itself is justification for receiving tips. It's not. The reason you mentioned is, though.
Last time I worked as a waiter I was paid 1.50 per hour by my employer. I guess you could consider that a living wage.
And to the person that repped me it was most definitely an archer reference. Because I like to live in......The danger zoooooone
That's fine, you have your reason to tip and I have mine. I don't see what's wrong with my reasoning. And I don't see how it's any less genuine or means I don't appreciate the service. I've worked in the food industry where I served people that didn't require tipping. So I've seen first hand how dicks people can be and how nice some can be (tipping without it being required or recommended). That's why I tend to over tip and even tip on takeout. I've been on that side.