Can't wait to go to Jake's and watch the game and not tip the server/bartender. His life choice brah...
Mate if you're the one p*ssing your money away on something we don't do in Australia you've got the problem, not me!
I've never worked in a restaurant and I still tip - usually 25% for good service. (the math is easier, frankly...) I don't do it because I have to, I do it because it's a nice thing to do. And doing nice things should never be discouraged.
This whole culture of tip as part of expected salary for waiters is stupid. Waiters should be paid by the restaurants and tips should be for good service, you should not be expected to tip for average to below average service. Raise the price of your menus and pay the waiters more.
Sounds like it makes sense. I'd like to visit some day. But why are you being "nice" to someone whose job is to serve you already and is supposed to give TOP NOTCH service even if you don't give them extra? Isn't the cost of the food already the "nice" thing to do? Order it. Get it on your table. Eat it. Pay for it. That's it. They're doing their job, you know?
That is a valid alternative. Most people who don't ever tip wouldn't be cool with the whole raise the price of your menu's part though. They would go some where else where the prices weren't raised and not tip. Besides the option of tipping gives the option of not tipping for poor service. If prices were raised you would be spending the same or more money than you currently do if you are an average or below average tipper, but you would be completely counting on the server taking professional pride in their service rather than any incentive of a good tip. I don't tip at buffets where someone brings me a drink, or counter service places, but if I have an actual server who is taking the order, drinks, delivering the food and taking care of anything that might come up in between they get a tip, and I figure that in before going, barring terrible service. Until the pay structure changes here, that is the expectation and you should go some where else to eat if that isn't your expectation. The more interesting part of the article that hasn't been discussed here much is the fast food industry workers push to get the minimun wage raised to $15. What they don't seem to realise is that there the resulting inflation in prices from every business that has minimum wage workers would result in a net loss in spending power for these minimum wage workers and everyone else.
Question: Why do tipping threads always blow up on clutchfans? Is it because we have so many foreigners here?
After reading this thread, everyone's convinced me to never give tips ever again. Thanks for saving me some money brehs!
I don't think being foreign has anything to do with it. 1. Either you've been in the service industry and can see the necessity of a tip because it's a big portion of your take home pay (thereby giving you an immediate reaction that tipping is needed almost regardless of the quality of service the customer is getting) 2. Or you've been jaded by one too many bad experiences at a restaurant where it shapes your mind into thinking that a tip is something deserved/earned rather than expected because the waiter got your order wrong or didn't refill your drink.
I don't think this is true. I think badly run restaurants and places that want to operate at a certain profit margin can't afford to pay their employees well, but plenty of restaurants can. In Austin we have a place called Black Star Brewery that is employee operated and community owned. They don't accept tips because they pay their employees a living wage (meaning they can afford rent, healthcare and a certain standard of living). If a bunch of anarchists can run a restaurant that has good food, great beer, pays their employees well and is typically packed (so prices aren't restrictively high) then the capitalist world should either be able to do the same or the owners should give up and get out of the way of the employees (read: stop stealing from them).
Because, it.... You know what? Forget it. If I have to explain why I'm being nice to someone, I... Just forget it.
What if the service still sucks, then what? So what if you had an amazing waiter/waitresses, how do you acknowledge their hard work? By talking to them? Nobody wants to hear you talk and tell them how good they are, they want you to tip them. Tipping means so much more than just good service.
The math is definitely not easier. I can save you money by teaching you a simple 15% equation. Take 10% of the total and then 1/2 of that amount and add the two together. $47.56 4.76 + 2.38 = 7.14 Done in two seconds and saved you $4.75.
You guys ever see bums on the side of the road with a torn up sign looking at you and begging for change and ****? You sometimes give them something, right? You want to know why you give them change and ****? Because you are compassionate human being, same thing with tipping/same principle. So the next time you go out to a restaurant and you don't tip? Think of the bum on the side of the road you never give change to. You're that guy.
So if I go to a restaurant and get bad service by your logic I should still tip? If a bum pissed on me while I'm walking past him I should turn around, take the change out of my pocket, toss it to him, and say "Thanks for not licking me!"
I'm not basing the principle on bad service but out of desperation. When I go to a restaurant, I see loneliness,desperation/sadness, tipping eliminates that. Am I going to the wrong restaurants or something?
