The time is now: Satanic Group Plans to Turn Westboro Baptist Church Founder Gay in the Afterlife Spoiler And from the last Pink Mass: http://www.vice.com/read/satanists-turned-the-founder-of-the-westboro-baptist-churchs-mom-gay
Can't believe I'm going to defend swoly here, but ascribing to an "eye for an eye" form of retribution is petty, counter productive, and tends to perpetuate violence. It makes you no better than the original offender.
I have no doubt he did some good in his life but for whatever reason he became obsessed with hatred which came to define him. From the original article: [rquoter]Heresy, he preached, and derisively insisted the Lord had nothing but anger and bile for the moral miscreants of his creation. In Phelps' reading of the Bible, God determined your fate at the moment of your creation. Informing the damned could not save them from eternal fire, Phelps believed, but it was required for his salvation and path to paradise. And so he and his flock traveled the country, protesting at the funerals for victims of AIDS and soldiers slain in Iraq and Afghanistan, picketing outside country music concerts and even the Academy Awards — any place sure to draw attention and a crowd — with an unrelenting message of hatred for gays and lesbians. "Can you preach the Bible without preaching the hatred of God?" he asked in a 2006 interview with The Associated Press. "The answer is absolutely not. And these preachers that muddle that and use that deliberately, ambiguously to prey on the follies and the fallacious notions of their people — that's a great sin."[/rquoter] I always try to find some good in people, not speak ill of the dead, and express sympathy for friends and his family but I am having a hard time with Fred Phelps. He and his family have caused so much pain and almost seemed to revel in the death and suffering of others. I am having a hard time saying "RIP" in this case.
LOL. Check out the TMZ story on Phelps' death. Make sure to watch the associated hard-hitting news video. http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/20/fred-phelps-dead-westboro-baptist-church/
I believe in an eye for an eye when it comes to certain things. Also, some people just don't deserve to live. This man was one of them. He created a hate group, disguised as a church, and used it to profit off a loophole in a 350 year old document that was there to protect the freedoms of this country. Freedoms that the very people he was so heniously exploiting fought to defend. I mean, how sick and twisted can you get? This POS deserves anything and everything bad he ever had in his life, and even worse in death.
This is kind of what I was talking about. I did find it particularly telling of the mindset of one of the Church members who didn't understand what it meant to say "Sorry for your loss.' http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/counter-protesters-westboro-baptist-loss-article-1.1731203 U.S ‘Sorry for your loss’: Kansas City counter-protesters to Westboro Baptist Church The death of longtime pastor Fred Phelps did not stop Westboro Baptist Church followers from protesting a Lorde concert in Kansas City, Missouri, on Friday night. Opponents greeted protesters with condolences. The Westboro Baptist Church sent their forces to protest a Lorde concert in Kansas City, but opponents met them with a new tactic: killing them with kindness. From the opposite side of the street, the rival protesters sent their condolences to the followers of Fred Phelps, the longtime pastor of the Church who died on Wednesday of natural causes. Megan Coleman helped make the sign for the Friday night protest with the simple words: “Sorry for your loss.” It wasn’t about antagonizing members of the church, but she wanted to send a positive message, she told KSHB-TV. But the act of compassion fell on deaf ears. The message meant nothing to church members such as Steve Drain who sported a big, bold Westboro sign quoting Jude 1:7 about Sodom and Gomorrah. “I don’t even know what they mean by what they’re saying,” Drain told KSHB-TV. The church chose the Lorde concert because followers believed “the young lady” from New Zealand “has not been taught and will not teach young women to be sober and godly,” according to a statement on Westboro’s website. Lorde responded to the announcement by telling fans on Twitter to come to her concert wearing rainbow clothing and to try kissing members of the church of the same sex. “They will so love it,” Lorde wrote. But she later deleted her tweets. The church protested country singer Vince Gill when he toured through Kansas City last year because of his marriage with Amy Grant after divorcing Janis Oliver, reported The Kansas City Star in Sept. 2013. The group also targeted The Foo Fighters, but were met with mockery by members of the band who sang to them the following lyrics: “Driving all night, got a hankering for something. Think I’m in the mood for some hot-man muffins. Mmmmm, sounds so fine, yes indeed,” according to KSHB reports. The church has protested more than 52,000 events since 1991, according to their website. In the past, Westboro followers have targeted funerals for U.S. soldiers killed in action, gay and lesbian groups, the United States in general and even the Pope.
While I agree that doing some kind of scene at Phelps' funeral is petty and useless, I really bristle at the 'no better than your enemy' logic. That's Saturday Morning Cartoon logic. I think of Fred Phelps as sick and broken, not morally inferior. Nor do I think of myself as so righteous that I'd never do some thoughtless, immature, hurtful thing for the satisfaction of revenge. I know I have done so in my own (more subtle) ways. I can refrain here mostly because Phelps hasn't really impacted me at all aside from the offense he gives me through the newspapers. All the same, I'm glad he's dead, since he was hurting a lot of people. His life was a tragedy because he was broken, and his death is a blessing because it gives him and us some peace. Does that make me a bad person to be glad he's dead? Have I sunk to his level? No, I was already a bad person. I just don't hurt as many people as Phelps did.
I'm not protesting anyone's funeral...but you simply cannot deny that the world is a better place without that scum in it.
I don't believe in rewriting history once someone dies. As a human being, and as someone that respects life... I hope peace for himself and family.... his ending was not pleasant, and he died a broken man.... and lets me honest, he had it coming.... he was a well educated man, and still decided to appeal to hate.
I can't argue with that and agree completely. Though I don't see what you said as being an "eye for an eye" though. Not sure why, but I do. While I would hope that I never would be glad that someone has died, I can say that I was not sad that Phelps died. Maybe it's just semantics and mind games and not wanting to admit that I'm glad the sucker is dead and the world is a better place without him.
