[breaking] Malaysian Airlines loses contact with Beijing-bound flight, 239 on board

likestohypeguy · Mar 19, 2014

magnetik said: ↑

I bet it's at Diego Garcia like the link earlier suggested. If DG is a space shuttle emergency landing site.. it can most likely land a 777. There were some high value target(s) on that plane. If it was staged by nefarious people in our govt (not putting it past them with the current climate) then DG would be already highly controlled and could be used clandestinely. They put out all the disinformation early on to get people to search everywhere but there. Now it's too late and it's probably repainted and already somewhere else. /tinfoil

if it isn't in the bottom of the ocean.. someone pulled off the heist of the century. The only explanation would be that it was state sponsored. Don't think some jihadis could pull it off even with help. Iran maybe. I'm wishing it did land somewhere and those people are still alive but the thought of someone successfully hijacking a 777 w/ a couple hundred people onboard is scary in itself.
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Yeaaah, that's the stuff right there!

Hmm · Mar 19, 2014

Not sure if this has been posted yet...

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — The FBI joined forces with Malaysian authorities in analyzing deleted data on a flight simulator belonging to the pilot of the missing Malaysia Airlines plane, while distraught relatives of the passengers unleashed their anger Wednesday — wailing in frustration at 12 days of uncertainty.

The anguish of relatives of the 239 people on Flight 370 boiled over at a briefing near Kuala Lumpur's airport. Two Chinese women who shouted at Malaysian authorities and unfurled a banner accusing officials of "hiding the truth" were removed from the room. In a heart-wrenching scene, one woman screamed in sorrow as she was dragged away.

"I want you to help me to find my son! I want to see my son!" one of the two unidentified women said. "We have been here for 10 days."

Photos: Missing Malaysia Airlines jet

Related: What if the missing Malaysia plane is never found?

Files containing records of flight simulations were deleted Feb. 3 from the device found in the home of the Malaysia Airlines pilot, Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah, Malaysian police chief Khalid Abu said.

It was not immediately clear whether investigators thought that deleting the files was unusual. The files might hold signs of unusual flight paths that could help explain where the missing plane went.

Malaysian police pull two relatives from missing plane conference

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Defense Minister Hishammuddin Hussein told a news conference that Zaharie is considered innocent until proven guilty. He said members of the pilot's family are cooperating in the investigation.

A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss the ongoing investigation by name, said the FBI has been given electronic data to analyze.

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said in Washington that the FBI was working with Malaysian authorities.

"At this point, I don't think we have any theories," Holder said.

This graphic released by the Australian Maritime Safety Authority Tuesday, March 18, 2014 shows an area, left bottom, in the southern Indian Ocean that the Australian Maritime Safety AuthorityAMSA

This graphic released by the Australian Maritime Safety Authority Tuesday, March 18, 2014 shows an area, left bottom, in the southern Indian Ocean that the Australian Maritime Safety Authority

Flight 370 disappeared March 8 on a night flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. Malaysian authorities have not ruled out any possible explanations, but have said the evidence so far suggests the flight was deliberately turned back across Malaysia to the Strait of Malacca, with its communications systems disabled. They are unsure what happened next and why.

Investigators have identified two giant arcs of territory spanning the possible positions of the plane about 7½ hours after takeoff, based on its last faint signal to a satellite — an hourly "handshake" signal that continues even when communications are switched off. The arcs stretch up as far as Kazakhstan in central Asia and down deep into the southern Indian Ocean.

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Police are considering the possibility of hijacking, sabotage, terrorism or issues related to the mental health of the pilots or anyone else on board, and have asked for background checks from abroad on all foreign passengers.

Hishammuddin said such checks have been received for all the foreigners except those from Ukraine and Russia — which account for three passengers. "So far, no information of significance on any passengers has been found," he said.

The 53-year-old pilot joined Malaysia Airlines in 1981 and had more than 18,000 hours of flight experience. People who knew Zaharie from his involvement in opposition political circles in Malaysia and other areas of his life have described him as sociable, humble, caring and dedicated to his job.

The crisis has exposed the lack of a failsafe way of tracking modern passenger planes on which data transmission systems and transponders — which make them visible to civilian radar — have been severed. At enormous cost, 26 countries are helping Malaysia look for the plane.

Relatives of Chinese passengers aboard missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, front, blame an employee of Malaysia Airlines after one of their family member was asked for identity credential during a daily briefing meeting with managers of Malaysia Airlines at a hotel ballroom in Beijing, China, Wednesday, March 19, 2014.AP Photo: Alexander F. Yuan

Relatives of Chinese passengers aboard missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, front, blame an employee of Malaysia Airlines after one of their family member was asked for identity credential during a daily briefing meeting with managers of Malaysia Airlines at a hotel ballroom in Beijing, China, Wednesday, March 19, 2014.

Relatives of passengers on the missing airliner — two-thirds of them from China — have grown increasingly angry over the lack of progress in the search. Planes sweeping vast expanses of the Indian Ocean and satellites peering on Central Asia have turned up no new clues.

At a hotel near the Kuala Lumpur airport, one of the Chinese women who was removed from the room displayed a banner that said, in part, "We are against the Malaysian government for hiding the truth." She later expressed frustration with officials.

"We launch our demands every day but to no answer, and they tell me to come back the next day," she said. "No answer, every day."

The father of passenger Pushpanathan Subramaniam said in an interview that the wait was "really too much."

"I don't know why it is taking so long for so many people to find the plane. It's 12 days," said 60-year-old Subaramaniam Gurusamy from his home on the outskirts of Kuala Lumpur. His 34-year-old son, Pushpanathan, was on the flight to Beijing for a work trip.

"He's the one son I have," Subaramaniam said.

Hishammuddin said a delegation of Malaysian government officials, diplomats, air force and civil aviation officials will head to Beijing — where many of the passengers' relatives are gathered — to brief the next of kin on the status of the search.

Aircraft from Australia, the U.S. and New Zealand searched an area stretching across 305,000 square kilometers (117,000 square miles) of the Indian Ocean, about 2,600 kilometers (1,600 miles) southwest of Perth, on Australia's west coast. Merchant ships were also asked to look for any trace of the plane.

China has said it was reviewing radar data and deployed 21 satellites to search the northern corridor, although it is considered less likely that the plane could have taken that route without being detected by military radar systems of the countries in that region.

Indonesian Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said Indonesia military radar didn't pick up any signs of Flight 370 on the day the plane went missing. He said Malaysia had asked Indonesia to intensify the search in its assigned zone in the Indian Ocean west of Sumatra, but said his air force was strained in the task.

"We will do our utmost. We will do our best. But you do have to understand our limitations," Purnomo said.

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Associated Press writers Eric Tucker in Washington, Rod McGuirk, Satish Cheney and Chris Brummitt in Kuala Lumpur, Niniek Karmini in Jakarta, Indonesia, and Kristen Gelineau in Sydney, Australia, contributed to this report.
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hooroo · Mar 19, 2014

Deleted files from Shah's simulator could reveal it had been used to practice diverting the plane and flying it to an unfamiliar airport, experts said. But even if investigators retrieve past simulations showing that Zaharie practiced flying to seemingly odd locations, that doesn't necessarily indicate evidence of anything nefarious, said Mary Schiavo, a CNN aviation analyst and former inspector general for the U.S. Department of Transportation.

"You put in strange airports and try to land there, just to see if you can do it," said Schiavo, adding that she sometimes does just that on the flight simulation program on her home computer.
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Read more: http://www.wptz.com/national/official-some-data-deleted-from-simulator/25047274#ixzz2wSjaz1TM

Schiavo said it's no surprise investigators found nothing suspicious in the pilots' homes.

"I've worked on many cases were the pilots were suspect, and it turned out to be a mechanical and horrible problem," she said. "And I have a saying myself: Sometimes an erratic flight path is heroism, not terrorism. And I always remind myself of that, not to jump to that conclusion. Sometimes pilots are fighting amazing battles, and we never hear about it.
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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/18/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/

A simple computer upgrade that Malaysia Airlines decided not to purchase would have provided critical information to help find the airliner that disappeared 11 days ago.

The upgrade, which wholesales for about $US10 per flight ($10.90), would have provided investigators with the direction, speed and altitude of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 even after other communications from the plane went dark, said a satellite industry official familiar with the equipment.
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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing...-for-search-20140320-hvkna.html#ixzz2wSkG4XYE

meh · Mar 19, 2014

To me, the most annoying and seemingly inconceivable thing is that it's POSSIBLE for a hijacker or a pilot with enough knowledge to sabotage the tracking system. Yes, apparently it's "difficult", but that it's even possible seems totally messed up. Is it really too difficult to create a system that stays turned on and cannot be reached while in flight? The only reason why a plane should go off the radar is if it crashes or lands. A commercial plane should not be able to shut off its own GPS.

AroundTheWorld · Mar 19, 2014

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A simple computer upgrade that Malaysia Airlines decided not to purchase would have provided critical information to help find the airliner that disappeared 11 days ago.

The upgrade, which wholesales for about $US10 per flight ($10.90), would have provided investigators with the direction, speed and altitude of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 even after other communications from the plane went dark, said a satellite industry official familiar with the equipment.
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Not surprised. This airline sucks.

dback816 · Mar 19, 2014

hooroo said: ↑

Read more: http://www.wptz.com/national/official-some-data-deleted-from-simulator/25047274#ixzz2wSjaz1TM

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/18/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/missing...-for-search-20140320-hvkna.html#ixzz2wSkG4XYE
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So tired of new info coming out then immediately proven incorrect.

I guess tomorrow we'll learn that this software wouldn't have helped anyway.

KingCheetah · Mar 19, 2014

I'm seeing lots of text but no giant 777 coordinates -- where is the plane -- engage weirdness...

<marquee>777</marquee>

heypartner · Mar 19, 2014

I can't seem to find this big 777, either.

<marquee DIRECTION=right>777</marquee>

I am a Donut · Mar 19, 2014

The Aussies found what may possibly be MH370 debris. Let's hope they show a little more prudence in the disclosure of their discoveries than the Vietnamese and Chinese. It's frustrating to us to get jerked along with false leads, but it must be pretty awful for the families of the passengers.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-20/abbott-says-possible-objects-found-mh370/5334314

Rocketman95 · Mar 19, 2014

Debris possibly found off western coast of Australia?

playlife · Mar 19, 2014

Australia sees possible plane debris
Breaking news
Two objects have been seen that could possibly relate to the missing Malaysia Airlines plane, Australian PM Tony Abbott has announced.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26659951?ocid=socialflow_facebook

heypartner · Mar 19, 2014

So, they successfully flew all that way, only to crash.

Something smells fishy.

KingCheetah · Mar 19, 2014

heypartner said: ↑

I can't seem to find this big 777, either
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Wrong direction mate!

B-Bob · Mar 19, 2014

heypartner said: ↑

Something smells fishy.
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Too soon.

SamFisher · Mar 19, 2014

KingCheetah said: ↑

Wrong direction mate!
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depends...

Surfguy · Mar 19, 2014

I still think something was wrong with the plane. Why would anyone do this if this is the crash site?

SacTown · Mar 19, 2014

heypartner said: ↑

So, they successfully flew all that way, only to crash.

Something smells fishy.
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Slow down. They didn't confirm this was from the plane. We've heard this before....

SacTown · Mar 19, 2014

Surfguy said: ↑

I still think something was wrong with the plane. Why would anyone do this if this is the crash site?
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Well it's been a week, the crash site could have been miles away. If this is actually from the plane. It's not confirmed that this debris is from the plane.

heypartner · Mar 19, 2014

B-Bob said: ↑

Too soon.
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Somethings seems upside down,,,

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CometsWin · Mar 19, 2014

If this wasn't an accident, the motive has to be acquiring the plane. You wouldn't kill all those people just to kill one nor would you kidnap all those people just to kidnap one and anything on the plane that they wanted to steal could have been stolen before the plane took off. Curious what the motive is behind this situation.

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