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[NYPost] Rockets could make push for Carmelo (UPDATE: Blog post)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ItsMyFault, Mar 13, 2014.

  1. ItsMyFault

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    There's two sources in this thread alone that have said Morey tried to trade for him at the deadline, or at least was interested in doing so. So the whole "does he sound like a Morey guy" should be thrown out the window.
     
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    You mean the Rondo rumors that the sports writers eventually began hearing about from their sources as well?

    You realize that just because he says that the Rockets are talking to a team doesn't mean that he is saying a trade is going to happen?

    And for your two (horrible) examples including one that you cited this thread as if you already knew if this was valid or not, there are many others countering your point. I would mention them, but they just end up on any thread Cyberx makes so you can go look it up yourself to see what he has been right now.
     
  3. robbie380

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    In order to avoid massive luxury tax penalties and to be able to have a clean slate after next season. I believe they would save about 70 million in 2014-15 if they let Melo walk instead of trading him and acquiring salary. But the Knicks are the Knicks and they love wasting money.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    I've also heard that he tried to get Josh Smith and Rondo....how hard was he really trying though? Maybe he really does think that he can fix Melo, but he'd be terrible for the team. I'm not convinced that the rumors of trying to get Rondo, Josh Smith, and Melo are anything more than lip service.
     
  5. ryandoc

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    A change in scenery certainly helped Dwight, why couldn't it work for Melo too?
    If it means a core group if Howard, Harden, Parsons, Beverley + Melo, then YOU DO IT!
     
  6. Fyreball

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    There is definitely a place for that style of play in the NBA, and the Rockets don't have that guy who can score at will from the high block. As a second or third scoring option, he would make the Rockets damn near unguardable. While his defense is suspect, I think he likes guarding power forwards more than small forwards, so I think he would thrive here in the 4 spot. Regardless, he's a sizable upgrade over anybody on this roster not named Harden or Howard, so I think if you get the opportunity to nab him, you take it.
     
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  7. jtr

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    What exactly does "interested" mean? Assuming Morey wanted to play ball was he offering stale bag of chips (GM code for Lin), Jones and a diet Pepsi or two for Melo? Or was it a serious offer of say Lin, Asik and two first round picks? Whatever Morey offered it was not enough. And I am betting it was a stale bag of chips and some chaff. Not a serious offer. A "Can I swindle you blind" kind of offer.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Of course there is a place for inefficient, foolish styles of play, but why would you want to lower the team's PPP by embracing any of them? He'd be a MUCH better scorer (which is all he's good for anyway) if he'd stop taking those awful mid-range shots.
     
  9. jtr

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    Melo has taken more mid-ranged shots this season than the entire Rockets team. Does that sound like a Morey player?
     
  10. Fyreball

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    He's never had a bonafide All-Star on the same roster as him, let alone two. I think you'd see the frequency of his bad shots go down drastically since he wouldn't have such a high rate of usage. Also, much like Dwight, you've got to believe that by coming to Houston, he'd be embracing the team culture here as well as buying into the system. Worst comes to worst, he'd make a nice asset when Kevin Love comes free the following summer. If all you're giving up is Lin, Asik, and Jones, I think you swing for the fences. If the Knicks get too greedy and ask for Parsons, you hang up the phone and let Melo walk to Chicago.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Exactly. There is seemingly always a rumor out there about a player that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever (Rondo, Josh Smith, Melo) and it seems like it's just bogus leaks by the Rockets.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    I never like going into a relationship hoping to change someone, I don't think it would be a smart idea for the Rockets to do so either. If they were lowballing the Knicks, hoping to flip Melo for someone else, that would make sense, but that's still pretty out there. I think doing nothing at all would be a much better course of action.
     
  13. ForTheWinYes

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    The Rondo rumors that ended up being reported as non-existent and didn't make any sense in the first place.

    Yes, I realize that anyone can say anything and fall back on this excuse. Obviously, I'm not as easily convinced as you.

    Well, it makes absolutely no sense for the Rockets to want to trade for Melo on an expiring deal rather than have him on a four year deal. It makes no sense that Melo's camp would "use Houston as leverage" considering the sheer amount of teams that Melo can leave to that have brighter futures than the Knicks. Either way, the Knicks are already bending over backwards to build a contender. That is why they stupidly traded picks for Andrea Bargnani, why they gave Phil the world despite his inexperience as an executive. To think that Melo needs Houston as leverage is simply flat out dumb.

    I'd rather put my trust in people that know what they're talking about.
     
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    A playoff team that would receive an unceremonious 1st round exit if they even make it to the post-season. Small-minded people like you are happy with moral victories and winning a playoff series here and there, but can't see how flawed this team is. My eyes are on the ultimate prize. Melo wants to win and the same way the big 3 in Miami sacrificed to win is the same way Houston's own potential big 3 would work.

    Also, I couldn't care less if you take me seriously or not. I don't even know who you are, but nobody on ClutchFans has posted as many winners or made as many accurate predictions as me.
     
  15. Kruze10

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    I think losing Asik would cause the most impact as his ability to defend the paint while Howard is out is one of the major reasons the Rockets have excelled defensively this season. Having said that, having Melo would be great for this team's chances at a title, we just need a reliable big off the bench.
     
  16. ItsMyFault

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    Or... the Knicks believe they can keep Melo. There's a lot of possibilities. You don't know what Morey offered, therefore you can't say it wasn't enough. It's understandable that you don't want Melo on this team because you don't think he fits well or that you don't like the addition of him potentially being on the team, it's another to keep pushing this agenda that you think you know what's going on or what Morey might or might not be doing when you have no source to back it up with.
     
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  17. jtr

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    Isn't, by definition, all speculation created equal? And if it had been "enough" the trade would have been made. Also by definition.
     
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    Man Melo would thrive here in Houston and Morey and you experts know this. Y'all are thinking too deep. Do you not see the pick and roll with Harden and Melo when we go small ball. Melo can shoot the shi% out the three ball. Isn't that Morey's philosophy or what? bwhahhahahaha. You will have another clutch player for crunch time situations. You will have another player who can get his own freaking shot. This will make things so much easier for Howard because teams will have to account for both Harden and Melo. Melo can rebound the ball, he can play both the 3 and 4, "Isn't this not a Morey's guy"?
     

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