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Teddy Bridgewater

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Old Man Rock, Feb 9, 2014.

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  1. Remii

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    Blake's pocket presence is good actually and he climbs the pocket very well. Teddy is hidden with a ton of bootleg plays. He rolls out of the pocket constantly (like in the game against Florida) so he doesn't have to be in the pocket and only has to read one side of the field.

    You probably can't even find tape of Teddy continuously throwing from the pocket against a good team...lol..
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    It's good of you to post this, the Teddy fans were getting really, really depressed. I think the pro day is only a big deal because rather than alleviating fears about the perceived weaknesses in his game, he highlighted them. It's not like any of the things seen at pro day were new. His tape shows him struggling with accuracy from time to time, he showed that he still struggles with it from time to time. We know that he has small hands and needs to wear gloves to get a proper grip on the ball....he wasn't wearing them. We know he needs to work on his mechanics and footwork, he showed that he still needs to work on them. We've always known that he's a little guy and he came in underweight.

    Nothing was new at his pro day, he just reinforced the red flags that already existed.

    Here's the kicker though, I still think he's the best QB in this draft class (till he inevitably gets hurt), but when I look at him, I see a shorter, smaller, less athletic Alex Smith. That's still a decent game manager QB, but I don't think anyone could make the case that it's worthy of the #1 overall pick.
     
  3. Hey Now!

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    In a post overflowing with great points, I think this is arguably the best. And it's one I've been making for years now (while defending Schaub; usually in the shadow of big-arm Joe Flacco): there is almost no sustainable advantage to having a QB that can chuck a ball 50 yards downfield. It's not a viable play in the NFL and hasn't been since the late 70s. Almost everyone is playing some variation of the WCO, and that was designed for a guy with a relatively weak arm (Montana). I would wager… 90% of all NFL throws are under 15 yards – throws; not catch-and-runs but throws.

    To jump on your post - I think the one constant among the great QBs is intelligence. Manning's arm isn't terrific by any nature - but he's a smart guy. So are Brady, Ryan, and Wilson. Intelligence isn't going to cover up necessary physical needs, obviously (and an enormously talented athlete can have success without being a member of Mensa; ie Mario and McNair) - but I think smarts, followed by mental toughness, elevate the great ones far more often than not.

    That's why I don't think there's *any* chance they're going to pass on Teddy Bridgewater (assuming he's as smart as they say he is). BOB can build an offense to cover up his possible physical limitations all day. You can't teach intelligence.
     
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  4. bobmarley

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    I still want Teddy at 1.1
     
  5. Ottomaton

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    Everything matters.

    They drafted him based on who he was. A bad combine and unimpressive pro day were weighed against all the other factors for a complete picture of a human being that they decided they wanted to build around.

    Peyton Manning had a bad super Bowl. There is a suggestive body of work indicating he might not be as good in the postseason as the regular season. But based on the whole picture, Denver is still going with him as their QB. The positives on the whole outweigh the negatives.
     
  6. endoftheworld

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    Exactly how I feel
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    Glad to see you're back. After Teddy's poor showing at his pro day, I was worried you had hurt yourself.
     
  8. endoftheworld

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    lmao, you got a chuckle out of me, I actually wasn't being able to see it but I heard all about it yesterday.

    He needs to keep his gloves on, still the number 1 qb by far in my book, just gives me a bit more pause due to potential issues he may have throwing in the rain.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL. Yeah, I agree he's still probably the best QB in the class, but he highlighted at least a couple red flags that some people saw in his film. I still have him as a shorter, smaller, less athletic Alex Smith, which would still be a decent enough game manager style QB, but not someone you want to spend the overall top pick in the draft on. I think Teddy, like Bortles or Carr could use at least one year on the bench to get prepared to be an NFL QB.
     
  10. endoftheworld

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    Much more accurate than accurate than Alex Smith, Better Pocket presence too.

    I do think time on time on the bench wouldn't hurt though

    The lack of gloves hurt his grip on the ball.

    But as another poster high lighted before, Peyton was a bit underwhelming in his pro day, so was Matt Ryan.

    However it makes me give Clowney a much harder look
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Alex Smith was known as a very smart, very accurate passer coming out of college.
     
  12. endoftheworld

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    1. He lacked nuance, didn't really have a natural feel of the game

    2. He went to San Fran

    Those two things hurt him badly

    His accuracy was over exaggerated throwing to wide open guys in the spread system, Bradford-esque
     
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    This is such a ****ty QB draft.
     
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    I'm starting to feel this way too.

    This draft feels a lot like 2007.

    Chock full of Drew Stantons, Troy Smiths, and Trent Edwards.

    I wouldn't be totally shocked if AJ friggin McCarron turned out to be the only pro from this draft that sticks around 10 years.
     
  15. J.R.

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    Get those gloves back on! LOL

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Talked to Teddy Bridgewater last night. Believes accuarcy issues at pro day were affected by decision to not wear gloves.</p>&mdash; Gil Brandt (@Gil_Brandt) <a href="https://twitter.com/Gil_Brandt/statuses/446372762148274176">March 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  16. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah I think he was trying to prove everyone who talked about his small hands and his need for the gloves wrong.....and they weren't.
     
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    Of course it was, you won games and won bowl games with gloves, why not wear them to the biggest interview of your life
     
  18. endoftheworld

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    Gloves is not an issue as long as you can get the ball to where it needs to be
     
  19. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Teddy Bridgewater to throw with glove during future NFL workouts. <a href="http://t.co/4QyFXyK6m2">http://t.co/4QyFXyK6m2</a></p>&mdash; CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_CFB/statuses/446374003804872704">March 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    Texans can arrange a private workout. With gloves or no gloves. I feel teddy just overthinks things too much. There is no need to be "proving points" like showing up overweight at the combine or not wearing gloves. Just be yourself and do what you do.

    He's pretty shy, so I don't doubt that his nervousness affected his performance on the pro day.
     
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