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Blake Bortles

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  1. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    62.96% vs 63.24%?

    Bridgewater has a much higher percentage when he gets blitzed.
     
  2. Summer Song Giver

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    I really think Bortles will be the pick and the Texans will sit him for one year under the guise of learning the position; and then next year they will say how confident they are in Bortles ability to be the franchise guy while passing on all the QBs in next years draft because they took one this year.

    And then next year when Bortles finally plays he'll look about the same as the Winstons, Marriottas and Hundleys anyway who will all play in their rookie seasons.
     
  3. Old Man Rock

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    Please grant me that level Bobby the great one. By the way those stats don't mean **** if you do not throw under pressure. Bortles runs out of pressure and throws much less when he is pressured. I would say almost 3 to 1 but you wouldn't know that without watching film.

    Even without film Bortles completes less than half a percentage point compared to Bridgewater and 5% points less against the blitz. Almost all of his 9 interceptions were under pressure. You got to watch a game or 2 before you act like you know it all.
     
  4. Remii

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    Lol... Let's be nice guys.
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    His deep ball accuracy is underwhelming.
     
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    Well yeah, when you get blitzed and not pressured, it's pretty easy....
     
  7. Remii

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    That blitzed percentage is tricky because they count it even if the blitz is picked up. The pressure percentage is more telling because that is judged by the quarterback being forced off his spot.
     
  8. M.G.

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    Also, Bortles, due to the design of his offense, threw more screen passes than Bridgewater. These are plays where he's designed to be "under pressure" but still maintain a high completion percentage. I'm not sure if RotoWorld accounted for those types of throws in their chart, but if they didn't, the number would be slightly skewed in Bortles' favor.

    I'd imagine the two of them would still possess similar completion percentages under pressure (as they already do), but Teddy would be slightly ahead. And the tape backs that up; Bridgewater definitely appears to handle pressure much more effectively than Bortles.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    Done. It's pretty clear that you don't have much to add. When you are proven wrong, you say the proof "don't mean ****" and your sole purpose on these boards, at least that I've seen, is to promote or defend Teddy Bridgewater. It's kind of sad. Anyway, per your request, enjoy the "ignore" list.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    For what it's worth

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Mayock: Bortles' performance really solid from every perspective.</p>&mdash; CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_CFB/statuses/446365453007327232">March 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Mayock says &quot;no red flags&quot; for Bortles in pro-day workout. ... Had opposite reaction to Bridgewater on Monday.</p>&mdash; CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_CFB/statuses/446365795669393408">March 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  11. TheRealist137

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    If a guy routinely gets Ds and all of a sudden he gets Bs you are highly impressed.

    If a guy routinely gets As but he gets Bs you are disappointed in him.

    Just saying
     
  12. Bogey

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    Take out TB and put in Clowney and that is fairly close to describing you, lol.
     
  13. J.R.

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    Mayock:

    • Thought it looked like it was supposed to look
    • Good arm strength - not elite
    • Word is potential
    • A lot of work to do
    • Potentially a franchise QB
    • No red flags
    • I believe he is raw
    • Everything you want in a franchise QB
    • May be a year away. He needs some time
    • With the positional draft, tough for any team in the top ten to pull the trigger on a QB


    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Yep, 9 balls on the ground. Most came late. RT <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero">@TomPelissero</a>: I had Bortles at 41-of-50. Six of the misses deep. Several overthrows.</p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/statuses/446365016904978433">March 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Bortles done throwing at pro day. <a href="https://twitter.com/CFD22">@CFD22</a> says it was a good showing.</p>&mdash; CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_CFB/statuses/446364660430696448">March 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Mayock: Bortles' performance really solid from every perspective.</p>&mdash; CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_CFB/statuses/446365453007327232">March 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Mayock says &quot;no red flags&quot; for Bortles in pro-day workout. ... Had opposite reaction to Bridgewater on Monday.</p>&mdash; CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_CFB/statuses/446365795669393408">March 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    While true, Bridgewater also helps himself out a lot when he faces the blitz. He knows how to read blitzes and make the correct audibles and adjustments to counteract them. He's also great at making the correct read quickly, which makes it much more difficult for blitzes to reach him. So while Bridgewater is getting pressured less often when faced with the blitz as opposed to Bortles, his talent and intelligence is a major reason why.
     
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    Anyone here actually watch the workout. He was 2/6 on deeper throws, missed a post corner throw twice, and had spotty accuracy on some comeback routes. When comparing both workouts I'd give him and Teddy the same grade based off what I saw. Bortles showed a better arm and Teddy had quicker feet.
     
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    LOL, not really. I do think Clowney is the best prospect in the draft (like most scouts an analysts) but I'm not completely married to that and I can acknowledge other good prospects like Mack and Watkins and so on. The Bridgewater guys are basically cultists.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    That's one possible reason sure. Or it could be that his O line is better than his opponent's D line. There's 1000 possible reasons for why things happen, I was just saying what happened. Either way, it's not like I'm saying that there is a better QB in this class than Bridgewater, I'm just saying that there isn't a QB in this class worth a top 10 pick.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Mayock: Bortles is raw. ... Might be a year away. Could benefit from time to develop.</p>&mdash; CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_CFB/statuses/446368252059324416">March 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    Now I agree with that 100%, in fact ALL of the QB's in this class could use a year on the bench grooming for the part.
     
  19. Air Langhi

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    Fine their percentages in that case are nearly the same. Are you going to argue Bortles is much better than Bridgewater because his percentage is .3% better?
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Bill Obrien on Bortles: &quot;it was a good workout. He made all the throws. Shoes good footwork. I was impressed.&quot;</p>&mdash; John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/statuses/446369621386723328">March 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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