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Jeremy Lin's upside

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by meh, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. khyberjones

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    This is Dragic's first really good season. He's had 6 others before this and Lin's season last year as a starter for 82 games was better than Dragic's 2012-13 season.
     
  2. khyberjones

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    In early February, it was Jeremy Lin who sparked that win streak that catapulted the team from a #6 seed to a #4 seed. It started with 2 games in late Jan and continued into Feb with a triple double against Cleveland, an effective performance against Dragic in the 4th quarter to beat Phx, an 18 pt performance in a win over Mil, a win over Minnesota in which he had 7 asts (though shot poorly) and was credited as the x-factor by ESPN, and a 16 pt performance in a win over John Wall and the Washington Wizards. So I just named 5 very good performances by Lin in early to mid Feb. BTW, he shot 23/46 from the field over that stretch (50%).

    His issues were over 7 games following the all-star break where he had back issues and had reduced minutes (and frankly I think he played well in the GS, Sac and Clippers games, and his +/- was pretty good in most of those games). You'd think it was 70 bad games by the tone of this site. Look at his stats when he plays 24 minutes or more: 15.3 pts/5.4 ssts, 47.6% shooting or thereabouts. Name me another PG who shoots that well from the field who is not named Tony Parker or Steph Curry. Very good numbers. It is not a stretch to see him as a 17/7 guy with a starting job, regular minutes and a coach who will at least run a couple of plays that suit his strengths.
     
  3. khyberjones

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    Is that all you've got?
     
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    Lins agent or are you a close relative?

    Whoever you are, you truly are the master of the positive Lin spin.
     
  5. blueice604

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    What is the point of your post? It seems that you drifted away from his content and just changed the topic to his identity?

    I'd like to see someone argued his points please.
     
  6. jordnnnn

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    It's been done before. Posters have argued against his cherry picked stats and his projection of Lins potential stat line if only if he didn't have the terrible misfortune of being on a contending team and it all just bounces off him. He just keeps coming back with the pro Lin spin time and time again.

    There have been several posters like him before and as long as Lin is here I'm sure there will continue to be more who pop up. I just think it's funny, that's all.
     
  7. meh

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    They only had to pay him $5mil this year. Which makes it 2yr/$20mil. If Dragic were a FA today. Do you think he gets more than that?
     
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    Yet, the same GMs, coaches, decision-makers who felt Chandler Parsons was 2nd round quality now want him. Ainge wanted him as part of the Rondo deal. Presti wanted him as part of the Harden deal even after one year when he shot badly. Dragic was given to Houston along with a pick for 2 months of Aaron Brooks, then they signed him to a big deal just a year later. Lowry was once traded for Rafer and 2 years later traded for a lottery pick.

    NBA history is littered with players that teams were wrong about initially and go on to become very enticing to these same teams years later. I don't buy your argument that NBA teams don't change their opinions on players. Because clearly they often do.
     
  9. haoafu

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    Things change in a hurry. Dragic and Lowry are playing arguably at the same level of Harden this season. Lin almost got cut before Linsanity. Deron Williams is almost an average player now...Howard left LA for nothing, and who knows what he would look like next season.

    Lin just need to stay positive and take care of his body. Everyone's tone would be different after a couple really good games in today's league.
     
  10. Ynnis888

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    It looks like Lin is looking to score more and more than facilitate.

    It also looks like his more selective in his assists.

    I am in favor of these.
     
  11. Ynnis888

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    *he's
     
  12. DaDakota

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    He is what he is, a 4th year player, there is no more upside for him...

    DD
     
  13. AvgJoe

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    signed Steve Nash's doubters...

    :p
     
  14. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Nothing about Lin suggests that he is good enough to even hold Nash's jockstrap for him. :p
     
  15. AvgJoe

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    I'm merely saying a lot of people didn't see Nash's potential at his 4th year. Hint: Lin has better stats right now than Nash's 4th year.
     
  16. Stats

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    Hope Lin works out with Nash this offseason.
     
  17. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    I know what you were trying to say. What I am saying is that even before Nash was "really good", he was still a good shooter and off the ball player. Nash never sucked, he just wasn't the illustrious passer that he later became.
     
  18. RedEyesKirby

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    No he tried to trade Lin away for MORE than his value. Basically Morey was doing a one up with both Lin and Asik. It's not that GMs don't want them, it's that they are not willing to pay what Morey is asking for because Morey is asking for the world since he is in no rush to trade them away cause of their contribution to the team. There were many tweets about inside sources that suggests that Morey would be crazy if he expects any team to give him what he wants.

    But of course in clutchfans eyes, it was translated to GMs don't want Lin or Asik. :rolleyes:
     
  19. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    The point meh was trying to make was "worth." If Lin is as good as many of his fans seemed to falsely believe he is, it would be easy to trade him. Young budding PG's with star potential don't pop up on the trade block very often. Thing is, THAT IS NOT LIN. IMO, that will never be Lin. He is who he is, not as bad as some on CF think, definitely not as bad as his slump suggested, but no where near as good as Linsanity.
     
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  20. AvgJoe

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    Yes, Nash was a better shooter, but he's famous later his career not from scoring but his ast. But in the beginning of his career, he wasn't as good because of the system he was in and how he was utilized. I'm not saying Lin given a better system would be on Nash level. I'm saying you cannot rule out the possibility because of previous examples like Nash.

    Btw, Nash sucked on his D consistently though.
     

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