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In retrospect, are Rockets's wins last week impressive?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Mar 13, 2014.

  1. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    There's a difference between "trolling" and "reality check".

    Sometimes (many times) Carl Herrera trolls. This isn't one of those times.
     
  2. Carl Herrera

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    A rational observer needs to face the facts, whether these facts are favorable to their favorite team or not.

    And one important fact about the 82 game NBA season is that luck and schedules often play a role in important role in the outcome of games. As a result, even the best NBA teams typically lose 20 games a season while the worst often win 20.

    There are times when a team loses because it's playing the 2nd game of a b2b set on the road vs. a rested home team, or because it's roster has injuries while the opponent's is healthy. There are other times when victories come as a matter of luck.

    A rational observer should account for scheduling issues when HOU lost to LAC at the end of a long road trip instead of shouting down scheduling as an "excuse." At the same time, a rational observer should look at the circumstances around Miami, Indiana and Portland when using them to assess the state of the team.

    Of course, one can choose not to be rational, but be aware that your expectations are going to be frequently off base when you make this choice.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I think it's pretty clear this team had it's reality check already. No one was questioning last weeks win before Tuesday's game against OKC. No one.

    Hindsight is always great, but to say beating Portland, Miami, and Indiana isn't impressive isn't fair. It is impressive. Anytime you beat great teams it's impressive - doesn't matter if it was by 3 or took a comeback. And the game against Indiana was ridiculous.

    I'll tell you why last week was impressive. Because I didn't think we'd go 3-0 against those teams. I doubt many people actually did. So yeah, it's impressive.

    I didn't think we'd win all 3 of these games this week either. I was thinking we'd go 1-2. Now it looks like we'll go 0-3. But It doesn't take away from last week. It doesn't expose anything per se.

    What's impressive is how quickly this team has improved. But great teams are going to be able to knock us back.


    What will be impressive is not how badly we lose or whether or not we barely win, it's how this young team responds to the adversity of being humiliated by Chicago.

    If we role over on Sunday - then yeah, not very impressive. But if we come in and beat Miami after what happened. Then yeah, that's really impressive.

    But to say last week wasn't impressive because of what happened this week isn't right.
     
  4. s.b713

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    Miami will come to play Sunday.
    Next game is very important.
     
  5. durvasa

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    I think people are getting worked up too much over the thread title, rather than seriously considering the content of the first post which raises an absolutely fair point by putting things in perspective. It was 3 home wins against teams with great records who happened to not be playing all that great.

    An "impressive" win, in my mind, is when we win a game for which a loss was expected. Taken individually, none of the wins were that impressive except perhaps the extent to which we embarrassed the Pacers. Yes, we should give some extra credit for going 3-0 against that competition. But, again, that's much easier to do when you're playing at home with off days in between.

    Road wins at OKC or MIA, probably even CHI, are more difficult to achieve and would be much more impressive. Let's see if we can get one against Miami.
     
  6. Tfor3

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    The miami game was impressive especially considering the wire - wire win. The pacer game was very impressive as they wood-sheded them.

    The blazer win was impressive bc of the spectacular come back.

    Yet another 1 star thread :eek:
     
  7. jim1961

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    Impressive wins are impressive wins, regardless of what follows. Ditto for unimpressive loses.

    The thing I see is the team needing maturity, which only comes with time. Often times after impressive wins, they act as though they should beat mid and lower tier teams just by showing up. The mental discipline to give their best effort vs all opponents is something even mature teams have lapses in. The Rockets just have more of them.
     
  8. jank1434

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    Can you go back to starting the double entendre treads, please?
     
  9. ooooaaaah!

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    Nobody should be too down on the loses they just had. Conversely, nobody should have been to high about the wins either. The Rockets are doing what the people with high hopes wanted them to do. They are in a good playoff spot, they are competing, and they are improving as the season progresses.

    All in all, its save to say Chandler is overrated. That isn't to say the he is bad, he is good and I'm happy with him. The point is, some people label him an All-Star and he simply is not. Remember, guys like Vernon Maxwell were not All-Stars and he damn sure was part of the reason the Rockets got the first championship.

    Cheers Carl, your were not trolling!
     
  10. MONON

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    I don't get it. If you want serious dialog/discussion, then don't answer your own thread title in your 1st sentence as CH did.
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I suppose it comes down to semantics and what one defines as "impressive".

    As part of the growth and development of this team, first you have to win at home before being able to win on the road. We are improving by winning those tough games at home (i don't care if they are struggling or not).

    It's so dangerous to look at a team and say they are playing great or not so great. One game to the next is a huge difference (barring injuries). Just look at Chicago. They were embarrassed by SA and Memphis at home and barely beat the Heat. They weren't playing their best basketball

    Then they trounced us and looked like the best team we've played all year long.

    That win against the Pacers was impressive. As impressive as Chicago's win against us.
     
  12. DREAM ON!

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    They were good wins but, on the road this Rockets team is just different.

    The Rockets did not get to this record by accident, they are a good team. The thing that troubles me with them is that the offense gets too cold at times. Who on this team can get you easy buckets, when the offense becomes stagnant? When you think about it, the Rockets dont have that. Harden is our main weapon and he takes a lot of threes, and has to work hard to get to the rim. We dont have that player that can just easily drain an 18 footer. We end up with EVERY player on the team trying to play hero ball when the offense is is cold.
     
  13. jim1961

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    With the exception of the Spurs, this could be said of every team in the NBA.
     
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    Depends on how seriously you took those wins. If you saw them as a playoffs simulation, then that's too seriously.
     
  16. Jake Tower

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    This is the mindset behind college football rankings.
     

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