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[Cable Television] Matthew McConaughey & Woody Harrelson's 'True Detective'

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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    So who was the Yellow King? And why did the Audrey side plot never get resolved? Same painting as in that mental institution, etc...
     
  2. ItsMyFault

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    Damn good finale. Really like how they wrapped everything up with that final scene. Agreed with everyone who was saying the Carcosa set was some the creepiest seen on TV.

    Sucks that MM probably won't be back, his acting was phenomenal in this show. I figured they wouldn't answer every question that was still open, but they took care of everything that was relevant. Looking forward to season 2.
     
  3. Svpernaut

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    Indeed he was. What gave me doubt was the fact he kept saying "I don't remember" about key details... but remembered other details. It was strange.

    The Yellow king was whomever was sitting on the throne (seen here). They don't say who it was as there were originally five guys, but the last one standing was Errol. So he was the Yellow King in 2012.

    I think the Audrey side plot was viewer created, I don't think it was there to begin with. Like with the doll scene, Marty focused on it as if it was odd but the girls were just playing. It showed that the case was getting to him - it could be his daughters... and thus the reason he went nuts and killed Reggie Ledoux.

    The same goes with beating down the dudes who tag-teamed Audrey and beating down Rust after he slept with Maggie. They showed time and time again that Marty didn't like guys taking advantage of women, or women in distress - which of course was contradictory because of how he treated his wife and his mistresses.
     
  4. Ziggy

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    The more I think about the ending... the more I like it. Which usually isn't how it works for me.
     
  5. Nick

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    Funny to see the people who were not happy with the ending because it didn't "explain" everything... when really, those theories were all fan-created to begin with.

    If you go just by the story itself, there really wasn't any loose-ends or loopholes that the writer purposely ignored. This wasn't LOST where it looked like the writers were just making stuff up each season to keep the story going. This was a one season/one-story epic drama that was scripted in its entirety before it ever shot a single scene. The writer even stated that he always knew the last scene of the season would be Marty and Rust outside the hospital.

    I doubt they are able to recapture the magic with a different story/actors without starting to get a bit stale/predictable or shark-jumping... then it really will become like LOST.
     
  6. Ziggy

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    That's not true, Cohle even said they didn't catch/identify them all and Hart said they probably never will. So not everything was explained. But ultimately that wasn't what the show was about.
     
  7. Nick

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    But even then, they did identify the Childress family, they were able to hash out Tuttle's connection, and they caught/killed the main driving force still alive.

    Sure, there are still likely people who were "involved" walking the streets... but I don't count that as an untied loose-end. Certainly wasn't a loop-hole that left a void in the overall conclusion.

    Also, I was mainly referring to the theories that Marty was somehow involved, or that his daughter was a victim, or that the father-in-law was a member of the cult, or that his ex-wife was trying to cover everything up and hence broke up the partnership, or that Rust's daughter wasn't really killed in an "accident"...etc.
     
  8. Blake

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    Totally agree with you there
     
  9. Ming Dynasty

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    Marty's daughter Audrey was used in the show to demonstrate one aspect of Marty's downfall based on the way he conducted himself. Similarly applicable to his wife.

    Note how once Marty was out of their lives, their situations improved and those characters thrived.

    The show spent a lot of screen time with Audrey for just this purpose, but keep in mind the whole season was a character study of the two main characters than it was of anything else.
     
  10. Ziggy

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    Yeah, totally agree, but the drawings at Marty's house and other random coincidences fans found had to be red herrings at the very least.
     
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    I agree with your premises. i am fine with loose ends as it adds character and realism to the show. For example, the bar owner towards the end who helped him. They never tied up up his end, but I like how he was written into the story. Not everything has to be explained, as long as it was intended. Too often the loose ends are tied up in an abrupt and unbelievable way.
    Plotholes on the other hand drive me nuts.
     
  13. Surfguy

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    There is no way Rust survives that stab wound in real life. Just saying...it would have been better and more believable if he died. In real life, he would have been dead within a few minutes...long before the police got there. And, there is no way the cops heard Woody yelling for help. He would have had to shoot his gun in the air to get their attention. It was a creepy ending but it didn't really shock me or seem that spectacular to me after all it took to get to the ending. It was good, though. It had a "Silence of the Lambs" feel to it when Clarice was in the dark trying to find her way. But, in this case, it was all that stick crap everywhere and that maze they were in. But, it was predictable that one would get there to help the other. I wasn't really expecting Rust to have anything in the tank to fire that last shot, though. I feel like he would have been more incapacitated than was depicted there.
     
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    Semi-serious question...

    I loved the finale. It was probably my favorite episode. But could Rust and Hart have been arrested for the way they approached things? Or is Hart immune to it ad a PI? I mean, trespassing, breaking and entering, threatening the woman, shooting the land owner, etc? Granted, I know they had reasons for this, and are provably immune because of the reasons, but could they have, had this been a real life situation?
     
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    Childress explained that he'd been waiting for the rest of the world to see the signs he'd been leavng for them so that they would learn of his "message". That girl's body was meant to be one of those "messages".
     
  16. Ziggy

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    Well I think we all fully expected Rust to die, even before the episode began. That's what made the scene so intense, unlike 99.9% of other movies and TV shows, the main character could actually die. When he didn't it was a huge twist.

    I expected Hart and Cohle to die together in the pit since they never showed Hart making the phone call. It was a genuine surprise to me when the police showed up.

    I doubt they heard Hart's screams. Police dogs probably tracked them down.

    A lot of what they did, even as cops should have gotten them in trouble. They broke the law just about every single episode. Even the black cops let Rust drink on the premises - I assume that's illegal.
     
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    Cranston will be for drama

    True Detective is considered a mini-series
     
  19. Ziggy

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    Ah, that's sad. Pee-pee game division.
     
  20. Blake

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    While Breaking Bad IMHO is a better show, I think MM did a better job than Cranston, who also already won a few times for WW
     

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