Official Jeremy Lamb and Steven Adams Watch Thread

He was the player Presti picked with the Toronto pick the Rockets traded in the James Harden trade.

And LOL at Grapenuts

 

Wow. He must have really pissed Clutch off. That is hilariously embarrassing, I hope he gets unbanned and continues to post under that :grin:

 

Kyle Lowry >>>>> 12th pick in the draft. Thunder should have just kept him.

 

We traded Lowry for the pick before the thunder made the trade, and I don't think the salaries would have matched.

 

I am assuming you mean Harden with the "him" pronoun? Otherwise, I am confused.

 

yeah but i never count the player taken with a pick in a trade because they are not really ever a Rocket and we probably wouldn't have drafted him

 

I just meant to say the Kyle Lowry would have been better than the 12th pick, but they traded kyle a year before. I think Toronto made a great trade. OKC screwed up bad. They should have just kept harden for a year and tried for the ring.

 

Since Grapenutz still has an active Feedback button, I think that means he isn't fully banned. Maybe he just doesn't have access to the Dish anymore, since he was misusing it.

 

Maybe he can only post in Unsorted and the Astros forum. That's probably worse than a ban.

 

LOL .

 

I gotta say, I am not a fan of your use of pronouns.

 

Lamb has definitely had a rough stretch of games since the All Star Break. He shows flashes, and he certainly has talent, but he needs to add some muscle to his frame so that he can go to the rim more and absorb some contact. Right now, when his jumper isn't falling, he doesn't bring much. But with the Thunder's development, I'd say that we still have high hopes for him. The talent and potential is obvious.

Steven Adams at this point looks to be the real prize in the trade for the Thunder. He's still very raw, but Thunder fans are excited and encouraged about his future. We feel like he could be the center we've been looking for for the past 5 years.

And word is that Alex Abrines is looking great overseas, and we have the Dallas #1 pick in this year's stocked draft, which will end up being probably the #21-22 pick.

Overall, it's still way too early to tell what OKC's haul is gonna look like. Lamb and Adams both have a ton of potential and could be future starters. Or they could be busts. Looks like at the least, realistically, both are already solid rotation players.

Yes, Houston "won" the trade, but that was always gonna be the case. Harden forced our hand and gave Presti no choice. And our first two options, Washington and Golden State, both said no to Harden. The question has been, did OKC come out with a decent return for a top 10 player or no? Right now, I'd give it a "maybe."

In other words, at this point, the trade was an A+ for Houston and probably a B- for OKC. But that's a far cry from the F-------- that the national media would lead you to believe.

 

Nope, it is an "F". The Thunder did not need to deal Harden when they did, they still had him under contract for another season and could have moved him at a later point, or amnesty Perkins or give up considerations to have a team take Perkins.

Harden is a top 5 player in the NBA at 24 years old and still improving. The Thunder got 2 possible long term rotation players. If you move a player like Harden, you better get atleast one VERY good player.

Time will tell, but that Harden trade may cost OKC Championships.

 

Nice post. Please contribute more often.

Not all trades are win/lose. It was a definite A+ win for the Rockets. Results for OKC are to be determined.

I'm not sure Lamb will become starter material. If learns to use his length and becomes a very good defender, he can move into Thabo's slot next season and OKC could go to another level.

Adams is definitely their future starter and has a good chance to become an above-average starter. Now that Perk is gone, they've told him to tone down the fouls. So far, so good. My main concern with Adams is he seems to have "Yao Ming hands" when it comes to rebounds. If he didn't fumble the ball so much or get the ball knocked loose so often in traffic, he might lead the NBA in rebounds per minute played.He seems like a very strong guy so hopefully this can be overcome. If so, anytime Adams, KD and WB are on the court at the same time, OKC will be a formidable on the boards at either end of the court.

 

If he's just banned from the Dish, that's a slick move by the mods and I hope it's permanent. If he wants to talk trash about the Rockets, he should be forced to do it in the GARM instead of hijacking all the game threads here.

 

I was never very impressed with Lamb as a prospect. He always struck me as a low IQ chucker, even in college. The trade has been an unmitigated disaster for OKC.

 

How did Harden "force" Presti's hand? IIRC, Presti didn't want to pay top dollar for Harden and gave Harden an ultimatum--either sign the contract we're offering or we're going to trade you. If that's correct, then Harden didn't force anything--not his exit, not the trade, not an extension (bc by all accounts the Thunder could have just kept him on the rookie contract for another year), etc.

Presti chose Westbrook, Ibaka, and, to a certain extent, Perkins over keeping Harden. Keeping Presti and Ibaka was a no brainer but to pick a center who was clearly on the back end of his career over Harden was a no no. You do whatever is necessary (e.g. go into salary cap tax territory) to keep a nucleus like Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka/Harden together. How many chances to a franchise get to have a Top 10 player at 4 positions all right before their primes? It's almost zero but Presti had that.

When it's all said and done Lamb might be a serviceable player and Adams could be productive but every season that the Thunder fall short on winning it all I wonder how many people in OKC are saying "Well, it was a tough season. The other teams' defenses just swarmed Russ and Kevin. If only we had a 3rd scorer..."

 

"Since the All-Star Break." lols. Nope. We are going on 30 games since January 1st.

That's more than half the year.

 

 

 

OKC fans trying to defend Presti...He's been great at drafting, but one mistake at the wrong time and wrong place can negate all that you have been building.

Kind of like Pop not playing Duncan in final seconds of Game 6 and 7, or Vogel not playing Hibbert in WCF against Miami at end of a game...