Does it bother anyone else to see almost every reputable draft outlet say that Teddy is hands down the best QB in this draft, BUT the Texans are going to take Bortles because "that's what we're hearing."
Well I can see the argument that Bortles has the most potential even though Teddy is pretty obviously the most NFL ready QB in this draft. If the Texans care about getting a player worth the number one pick, it won't be a QB at all so if you are arguing that they are going to reach on a QB you can then make the argument that they'll reach for the QB that has the most future in the league over reaching on the best day one QB.
lol Makes no sense to me.. Maybe if Teddy was posing for pictures with Lebron or had a Blonde white girl you know things that social media likes to talk about maybe they talk about him more?
They ain't hearing ****. It's a media circle jerk. One guy speculates as to why O'Brien might prefer Bortles and then another guy picks it up and it spreads like wildfire even thought OB and the Texans have been mum on the subject. So when people "hear" ****, they hear it from people who don't know what the **** they're talking about. For example, I don't know how many times I've heard "O'Brien likes big quarterbacks". Says who? It's speculation because he had Tom Brady (who was there before OB) in New England and he recruited a 6'5" QB to Penn State. That's a pretty small sample size to base an assumption on. I'm sure that all other things being equal, virtually every coach at every level would prefer a tall QB, but all things aren't equal and it's silly to assume that size is the most important thing. But people still come up with Bob liking big QBs out of nothing. And when he's been asked about it, he's said he's won with big guys and small guys and average guys and that other things were more important. Yet people still talk as if height is the #1 thing OB is looking for in a QB. And since that's the one thing Bortles has on Manziel and Bridgewater, they think that makes him the favorite. And then you add stuff like Bortles playing against Penn State last year and also playing for O'Leary. When all is said and done, those things are going to matter very little if at all. People talk as if OB isn't going to do his due diligence and scout everybody and that seeing a guy once during the season and getting an endorsement from his own coach (albeit one of OB's mentors) is going to trump what O'Brien sees with his own eyes. Those are all very thin reasons to think Bortles would be preferred by O'Brien. But I guess that when you don't know ****, you grasp at every straw you can and try to make it seem like the most important thing in the world.
good Post. I mean cmon the guy throws at the combine and hes now NO # 1, please... Youll see once Teddy has he pro day, He will be NO # 1, and than MAnziel will be No # 1.. I seen Media stating Texans ar ein love with Manziel, NFL Execs believe the Texans will take Teddy, sounding more anfd more like the Texans are leaning towards Clowney, OB wants Bortles.. Noone knows ****..
Ehh, he's boring, if he was more of a dual threat or was better looking or had an exciting off the field life he'd get more air time. Nobody wants to hear about a normal looking pocket passer who doesn't have a huge personality.
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me what "most NFL ready" is. Or why that's a bad thing. Oh so you say he's the most NFL ready? Well then we definitely shouldn't take him then, because you never want a rookie that gets out to a fast start! What?!?!
Also someone explain to me the difference in these NFL.com grades: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/robert-griffin, iii?id=2533033 http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/teddy-bridgewater?id=2543465 THE NUMBERS ALL LOOK THE SAME TO ME. I'm tired of this nonsense. Our coaches seem to be doing the right thing and leaking nothing to the public. Look at the Rockets now compared to in the Dawson era. Same as the Texans under O'Brien vs Kubiak. It's a measure of how tight a ship you run. Nobody else has any clue what's going on.
I think it is a way for people to say his ceiling isn't as high as the others, which makes no sense to me. The man is 21 years old and will only get better IMO.
Most NFL ready as in most NFL ready to see an NFL defense and decide where the best place to throw the ball will be. Scouts put too much emphasis on physical ability. The best QB's in the league have physical limitations, but can read an NFL defense to a T.
Yep. Give me the best football mind at the most important position on the field, the one where athleticism happens to matter the least. Manning just got done throwing ducks all over the field and dragging his team to the Super Bowl. Brady is not a physical specimen by any means.
It's football mind, not SAT mind. Things happen in tenths of seconds, defenses will shift just before the ball is snapped, progressions need to be made quickly and sometimes twice over, and all the while seven to eight people are trying to knock your head off. You can't teach that mind.
Guess you don't remember Brees for most of his career in San Diego. And Teddy is not the only one in this draft with that mental makeup. Bortles and Jimmy Garoppolo have those traits as well.
Ah. That clears things up. Thanks. I was thinking they just penalized him for not running the 40 at the combine. I do still think it's strange that Bridgewater and RG3 have equal dimensions, yet we did not hear half the amount rumblings about RG3's stature despite his admittedly increased reliance on his athleticism for success. Bridgewater is decidedly not a running QB, but he is mobile enough to extend plays unlike say a Schaub clone in Mettenberger. Time will tell if Bortles is a Rothlisberger clone or if he's just another Gabbert, overvalued simply because he looks the part.
This crossed my mind once I opened both of your links. They are pretty much the same size. Now, size is listed as a weakness for RG3 in that combine assessment and he has been injured since entering the league, so it's a valid concern. I think TBs play style isn't the same as RG3 so TB may not be exposed to injury as much as RG3 might.
Some believe that if you're already pretty polished in college that it means you don't have room to grow and that your ceiling is lower than somebody who has had success but really hasn't put it all together yet. I watched a think on the NFL Network last weak that was a countdown of the Top 10 busts in NFL Draft history. #1 was obviously Ryan Leaf. They brought up that Peyton Manning had the same label applied to him. He was viewed as the polished prospect who was most NFL ready but limited upside while Leaf was the guy with great physical tools who had more potential and a higher ceiling. "Potential" is an interesting thing. It's almost always an overvalued quality. It's like how in the NBA, a lottery pick is usually more valuable than the player who gets chosen with that pick. Meaning you can often trade a pick and get more in return than you could if you drafted a player and traded him later. And it's because of "potential". When it's just a pick, you can let your imagination dream about hitting on a player who's the next superstar. When you have an actual player to look at, you realize that that's probably not going to be the case. And so people look at college players who obviously have talent and/or certain physical traits but who are still at least somewhat raw and they imaging what they can be instead of putting more emphasis on what they probably will be. And as a result, those people rank those players higher than other players who aren't raw and are more developed. Now, there's nothing that says that polished college players lack potential or high ceilings. That's surely true of some, but that's hardly a rule. But some people just assume that if less developed players have high ceilings, then polished players must have low ones.
Stop speaking on "reaching" for a QB as if its stone cold fact. Its YOUR personal opinion because all you want is for everyone to jerk off Clowney just like you do. We get it, he's an athlete, that's fantastic. Yet his dumbass will never amount to what JJ has done because he's not going to work as JJ has even if they were to play on the same team. He doesn't have "it". The only drive Clowney is worried about having is the one in his brand new Lambo to the bank. You guys keep that I'll take a real football player.
