Maybe Morey is frustrated by the fact that he couldn't complete a trade because 2/3 of the teams in the league do not want to trade draft picks at the deadline. Anyhow, I like the wheel -- it seems even and fair. I also like the idea that the draft order (lottery) should be set by the team's winning percentage after eliminated from playoff contention. Makes teams want to work hard for all 82 games.
I like this, except there are some teams that will still want to lose to guarantee the 4th pick (assuming the draft is done by record after the lottery). I think they should also make you "ineligible" to win the lottery two years in a row. You should have to go to the back of the lottery pool and pick at 22-24 if you won the lottery the previous year.
Then they better not miss on their picks... Teams shouldn't be rewarded for constantly being bad at drafting. And teams would have no incentive* to be terrible (Not sure how to classify Cavs who are trying to be good, but failing... but also keep missing on their lottery picks and/or not developing players.) *excluding salary cap/FA
Only thing, every player would choose the popular teams. Who would want to be on the Bobcats, Pelicans, Magic, Toronto type teams? They would have to over pay.
Morey is a tanker. He has said many times tanking is the easiest way to rebuild. People seem to easily forget that we WERE in the process of tanking. We got rid of Scola, traded Lowry, let Dagic go, signed Lin and Asik, and stockpiled first round picks. If we didn't happen to get Harden that year, we would have been in full tank mode. It put it simply, we signed Lin to be the face of our franchise before getting Harden. If that doesn't smell of tanking, your sinuses are probably clogged.
The NBA draft and the Conferences ranking are two major flaws that needs to be fixed. I don't understand why fans would pay to watch games when they knew they did not put the best team on the court to win. Worst is when you can't tell if they intentionally tries to lose a game that they could win. It is illegal but hard to be proven.
these rich owners need to stop being cheap and/or stupid, and give their cities something to cheer for. To further your point...the Bobcats last 10 drafts.... 2004 Pick #2 Okafor 2005 Pick #5 Felton 2006 Pick #3 Morrison 2007 Pick #8 B Wright(traded to Golden State) 2008 Pick #9 Augustin 2009 Pick #12 G Henderson 2010 no picks 2011 Pick #9 Walker 2012 Pick #2 MKG 2013 Pick #4 C Zeller You can make a case that the jury is still out on Walker, MKG and Zeller but, that list is full of mediocrity, especially 2004-2006. Really guys, how many more low lottery picks does Michael Jordan need? There are some good ideas in this thread but, i think you reward the playoff teams with the the low picks starting with 8th seeds, then by record. Let the Franchises that want to win, keep winning and let the losers keep losing. Overall i just think winning needs to be rewarded.
This is why that is a terrible idea. Could you imagine what would be happening in the Eastern Conference this season under those rules?! The "tanking" would be far WORSE! Teams currently in the playoff picture would be climbing over each other to get OUT of the playoffs! No, thanks, to that idea. Actually, the system in place at the time (1993), IIRC, was to weight the lottery teams (11 of them at the time) so that the team with the worst record got 11 "ping pong balls", the second worst record got 10, and so on, with the best non-lottery team getting 1 ping pong ball. When Orlando (the best non-playoff team that year, led by a rookie Shaq) won the lottery again, the NBA decided to more heavily weight the lottery towards the crappier teams. (FYI, Orlando won the "Chris Webber Sweepstakes" that year but traded Webber on draft night to Golden State in exchange for the #3 overall pick--Penny Hardaway--plus THREE first round picks!) I actually wouldn't mind going back to the pre-1993 system. This sounds like a better idea, although I don't think a playoff team should have an EQUAL shot at the #1 pick in comparison to a truly terrible team. No, I don't want to reward crappy management, but some teams (even well-run teams) just flat out NEED that high lottery pick to ever hope to be good. I liked Bill Simmons's idea about a TOURNAMENT towards the end of the season for certain teams to jockey for draft position. It would be pretty tricky to weigh those incentives, though. Some other ideas: I could imagine a scenario where teams' records down the stretch (i.e., if below-average teams actually tried hard and won some games) could net those teams some EXTRA NUMBER COMBINATIONS in the lottery, with teams that just "give up" LOSING some of their combinations. I think it might also help if there were more than just three lottery positions. Perhaps if there were 5-7 lottery spots, and teams knew that they were less likely to get a top-5 pick even if they went 0-82, those teams might actually try to win a few more games.
team trying to lose because worse team has better chance winning the pick they will not try to lose if is the other away around so the best non-playoff team actually has the highest chance so if you are the worst team every year you are looking at #14 pick
I think the Wheel is a great idea if you still have it by record after pick 5. That means the worst team in the league gets the 6 pick guaranteed every year instead of the 4th guaranteed. Also means if the champs get in the top 5, they get 5 and not 1. I like that idea personally.
The wheel on the draft go round n round, round en round, round n round all through the league. Yea I like it.
If record doesn't matter, the lottery is pointless, some team could randomly get the top pick multiple times in a row. If you aren't going to differentiate based on record, the predictable wheel is by far the fairest system.
Actually Morey is not the first one to bring this subject up. I remember hearing complaints last season.
What if the weighted percentages looked something like this (using this year's teams): 0.6% Charlotte 0.7% Atlanta 1.7% Denver 4.3% New Orleans 6.3% Detroit 15.6% Cleveland 19.9% Utah 25.0% New York 11.9% Sacramento 8.8% Boston 2.8% LA Lakers 1.1% Orlando 0.8% Philadelphia 0.5% Milwaukee Instead of doing it in reverse order like it is done now where the team with the worst record gets the highest percentage, what if they did it like this where the highest percentages are in the middle, and the percentages get lower the further out from the middle you go. This way, the teams close to making the playoffs will get low percentages since they don't need the draft picks as much as other teams. And the worst teams in the league will have low percentages so that there is no incentive at all to tank. Obviously, Some teams will be the worst in the league. But there will be no systematic taking by GM's, so the quality of the bottom of the rung teams will improve since they do not want to be one of the bottom teams. And the teams at the top with low percentages will have no incentive to get into the "middle" because they are trying to win because they are close to reaching the playoffs.
How about every team gets balls. Even playoff teams. 1) 10 2) 11 3) 12 4) 13 5) 14 17) 27 30) 40 Have the entire draft order decided by them. In this scenario, your record has some relevance in that you have more balls, but not overly so.
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It's rough having an incentive to win for mid-level teams as you either win it all or it's basically for nothing. There's no prestige in being eastern conference or western conference champions. I think if the NBA made those 2 honors worthy to compete for in the long run, it could be a step in the right direction (like the NFL does). However, easier said than done.
First Morey is talking about the good of the game, not what is good for the Rockets or Sixers or any other individual team. Alexander wouldn't let Morey tank, so he respected his bosses wishes and didn't tank. Would he have tanked had Alexander told him to? I believe so. I don't favor the wheel, but the current system is destroying the product on the court. Literally 2/3 of the league has mailed it in by game 50. The pre-1993 system is better than what we currently have. Possibly make the draft open to high schoolers with teams sending them to the D-League, increasing the number of protected spots in the NBDL.
In hindsight the Wheel is fair if not for the owners abusing the system to take advantage of it. I do believe the needy teams needed a helping hand. It's just unfortunate that too many of those needy teams are by design.
