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Uncle Bob praises Clowney.

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Raven, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    I honestly question if you do. On the play in question, it looks like he has responsibility for the B gap and the C gap, which is why he didn't just fire off into the C gap in an effort to contain the run inside. The run was to the extreme outside, call it the D or the E gap if you like. Had Clowney fired into the C gap to force the run back into the B gap, there may or may not have been anyone there because covering runs through that gap would be his responsibility, you can't cover 2 gaps while "setting the edge".
     
  2. tmacfor35

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    LOL this isn't 1+1. This is about effort. And even if he was "maintaining" that 2 gap responsibility, he did a horrible job with his pad level and leverage. Stop defending his play. 3 sacks and 11.5 TFL's is pure garbage from an effort stand point. Whitney Mercilus who is half the talent that Clowney is, produced at a much better clip. Another great ignorant post from Bobbythegreat.
     
  3. Bogey

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    So even most experts think there are many red flags regarding Clowney and his effort. Bobby here obviously knows more than most. Too bad everyone can't be as smart as Bobby.

    He didn't put much effort in any off those plays, regardless of what is called.
     
  4. tmacfor35

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    Bobby has an agenda which was noted earlier this thread. The agenda is, "I want Clowney and if nobody agrees with me, I will give out contradictory info that has no relevance to the topic to prove my own point. And at the same time try and convince myself that what is coming out of my ass is correct."

    His agenda is full of blah blah blah arrogance that is just as useless as his other clutchfans account that goes by the moniker "Remmii"!
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    Ugh, oh well I guess it's baby steps with you guys. One day people will be able to hold an intelligent football conversation around here an you guys will be able to contribute something!!! It may not be any time soon, but I'll help you guys get there one day.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    THAT'S my agenda, increasing the FB IQ around here.
     
  7. tmacfor35

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    hahahahaha too funny.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    It may seem ridiculous, but I think one day you guys will be ready.
     
  9. tmacfor35

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    I don't think everything you say is ridiculous. It is how you say it, and the fact you do not know how to pick your own battles.

    Clowney would be a good choice at number 1 no doubt. I don't think many people argue against that. But the fact remains that he has work ethic issues. He had 3 sacks in college. That isn't a lack of talent that is causing the problems. It raises red flags.
     
  10. Bogey

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    Agreed.
     
  11. chrispbrown

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    C gap means anything outside the tackle. You set the edge by engaging the lineman, keeping an eye on the play. If you have set the edge the player should be forced to the b gap or other direction. The player should react by disengaging the lineman and try to fill b and if he can't linebackers should be there.

    Clowney just kinda slaps hands with the guy and watches the rb stroll on to a td
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    No it doesn't, C gap is on the outside of the tackle, but it's not EVERYTHING outside the tackle, there is always a D gap and sometimes even an E gap depending on how the defense sets themselves up. You can't set the edge if you have 2 gap responsibility because how are you supposed to block the B gap if you shot the C gap to "set the edge"? You can't do both so when you are two gapping, you have to stay disciplined and NOT go set that edge or you just gave the RB the B gap and failed.
     
  13. SevenMinuteAbs

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    Does this honestly look like fighting for anything to you?
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  14. Bobbythegreat

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    Is he losing ground? No, but that didn't help because the goal of the defensive play call wasn't helpful against the offensive play call, and the linebacker failed to get outside causing an easy TD. I guess in your mind he should have either jumped the C gap right off the bat leaving the B gap wide open for an easy TD or just shoved that guard and tackle down and run down the sprinting RB....I'd suggest you play too many video games.
     
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    If you could just answer the original question that would be fantastic.

    And what play was called there? I can't seem to remember...
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    I did answer the question, yes, he was fighting to hold his ground in order to keep both his gaps blocked off. It was a terrible play call for the defense, if they'd given him one gap responsibility, the play happens completely differently, but probably still poorly because if you watch the very next run play Clowney shoots the C gap and sets the edge forcing the RB back inside but he manages to get a ton of yards anyway.
     
  17. endoftheworld

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    tough play for Clowney, he was doubled on the outside be the guard and tackle

    Bad play by the backer/safety of not recognizing the double on the outside and not flying to the edge

    #6 should have gotten to fill that inside gap quicker

    That Td is not clowney's fault at all
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    Thank you! There are actual examples of Clowney messing up out there, that just didn't happen to be one of them.
     
  19. endoftheworld

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    When you get doubled as a linemen, grab cloth (from both double teamers, and take a knee)

    Clowney did what he was supposed to do, shotty pursuit from that backer though ugh

    How do you allow your self to swallowed up in another players double team lol????
     
  20. SevenMinuteAbs

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    I agree that it was likely a bad call/execution by SC but he wasn't even in a stance when the play was called or get off the line. It probably woulda been a score either way but he definitely looked gassed there.
     

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