Well I am comparing them. These three quarterbacks lack the physical attributes in today's game yet excel because of the mental side of things. Funny you mention Alex Smith, because if Alex Smith were on the Texans last year, they probably make the playoffs.
Ugh, sure they wouldn't have. So going with a lesser passer would have helped the team make the playoffs? Sure Alex Smith would have protected the ball better, but he's just a game manager and without the running game and defense to win games, he's not a QB you want. In fact, put Alex Smith on the team instead of Schaub/Keenum and we probably lose 2 more games.
I think it depends on what is there in the 2nd. If they snag Clowney in the first and they aren't worried about Nix having awful knees, they could take him in the 2nd. I dunno, I still think we go QB in the 2nd
Yep, Alex Smith instead of Keenum would have led to a lot more losses! And the Texans were much better with 19 tds and 20 interceptions. Smith's game managing 23 tds and 7 ints (in one fewer game) really would not have helped. And 378 yards passing, 60 rushing, 4 touchdowns in the playoffs? Schaub or Keenum could have easily done that!
What part of his IQ exactly is he lacking to be at the level peyton was coming out of college? Like what aspects was peyton better than Teddy in the mental game? Alex Smith is better than both of them. Maybe not Schaub of 2-3 yrs ago but right now. He's got more arm strength and is way more mobile and athletic than both of them.
I still think there's a chance they'll take Clowney and keep Schaub as a starter. It would be much easier to roll with that and contend next season than having a new QB. It's not that bad of an idea, if BOB is that great with QBs. I would also expect them to change Schaub's workout program and try to maximize his athleticism. He's always looked pretty soft to me. There's definitely room there for improvement.
A different scheme will give the Texans a chance to be competitive. I think the zone blocking scheme was figured out. I like BOB's philosophy of beating the other team's weaknesses opposed to running what you run and making the defense beat you.
i'm not sure why that is laughable. We still have the same core that contended the previous year. Obviously, this past season was not a true reflection of what this team can do. Having Foster, alone, probably puts us at .500 for the season. Don't forget we lost a lot of close games. With what should be better coaching, a clean slate and motivation for returning players, a healthy Foster/OD/Cushing, and help via the draft, contention is definitely within reach.
I know it's an unpopular idea but it's not completely crazy, imo. I know cutting him before june 1st creates some cap "savings" for this year but hurts more next year...I wonder what it would look like with him being on the team this year and cutting him next year. I don't really want to spend the time trying to figure out all the cap ramifications though. Still, the texans need a QB for the future and hopefully it will come from this draft in one form or another, i.e. either early pick or late round gem.
Yeah they absolutely could contend next year, not for the SB, but for the division certainly. The Texans will be playing a last place schedule and if they add Clowney to an already decent defense when Cushing is healthy and Foster comes back healthy they should be able to win plenty of games. Actually, if they'd had Foster, Cushing, and Clowney last year they probably make the playoffs. There are a lot of low FB IQ fans who don't realize the reasons the Texans lost so many games last year and they want to blame it all on the QB position when in reality, lack of a running game, inability to generate a pass rush without a blitz, and the loss of the defensive captain had a LOT more to do with it than anything else. Throw in an upgrade at RT and it's even better.
With me having continuing uncertainty about all of the top QB's (Bortles scares me the most lol) I'm starting to lean towards Clowney with the top pick. As long as they're satisfied he won't turn out to be a A. Haynesworth (mentally) then I would be on board with it. Would be nice if Garapolo would fall to the 3rd. If not Mettenberger or Murray in 3 or 4 maybe. That would leave our 2-1 pick to trade down with or just select there. This is the only thing that actually would make me worry about the Clowney scenario coming true. With the adage that the best way to guarantee yourself of at least 5 years of coaching "leash" you draft a QB at the top of the draft. So the question is .....Does B.O.B. have the stones NOT to go this route even if he thinks Clowney's the best choice? And for the record I think if we had A. Smith at QB this year our record would have been MUCH better that it was. No question about it. Smith has come a long way from the "semi-bust" label he had for so long, and I consider him a top 3rd of the league QB. Especially with the running dimension thrown in.
It's probably only laughable to me because I thought we would only win 5-6 games going into this past season (and I was wrong). I'm looking at a 2 year turnaround. Especially when LZ said that he heard O'Brien was not happy with this roster and after the comments Rick Smith made at the combine of not necessarily drafting for need and on how the roster will look different in the future. This isn't a Kansas City situation. But I hope you're right but even if you're not two years isn't long. O'Brien needs a little time to clean up the mess Kubiak left behind.
I actually was in the 8 maybe 9 win season. The way they played at the end of the previous season was horrible on both sides of the ball. Schaub was awfull and you could tell the D was trending down as well.
That type of prediction isn't hard, just be super pessimistic and say something like that every year, you are bound to be right at some point. It's the exact same as someone who picks 12 wins every single season and is eventually right.
I bolded the part that was most interesting to me...This is so telling...From a total outsider, he can see that this team lacked proper structure...poor evaluation of talent, bad contracts, and just a bad football team. This is much more of a clear indication that Rick Smith didnt do his job, and his job is totally on the line this season. This roster lacks depth and there are so many holes. For anyone that thinks this team can have a KC like turnaround is just fooling themselves. KC hired a terrific NFL experienced Headcoach in Andy Reid, but the same issues he had in Phili reared its head again...lack of playoff success(cant believe they lost the way they did to Indy...pathetic). Back to the Texans. We all have clearly seen the decline of Matt Schaub from an above average QB to a below average QB. He is a huge liability for this team. If defenses do not respect his arm strength, that is a huge weakness in the offense. Infact, I think Matt's actually a smart dude, and you can tell he really wants to win. The issue is that the mind and body are not on the same page. This new coaching staff will see that with game film and Schaub will be released. Matt's burned too many bridges here in Houston, and fans will crucify management if he is playing in September. Period. I say Casell, Henne, heck anyone else via FA. The team needs new blood. Cant repeat the same mistake Kubiak did by holding onto and hoping to fix David Carr scenario again... The team isnt severely handicapped in the future, but they will have to be shrewd with picks. By hiring so many of Bellichek's prodigies, the Texans have to truly embody the Patriots way. Cut ties with overrated players and become a "a$$-h..." like management. They will have to secure JJ Watt's future, and perhaps cut ties with Daniels, Manning, Foster and even Cushing by next year's offseason. This team needs a 2006 like haul on draft day. Finally, the Texans have to be prepared to stick to the course. I too see a 2-3 year rebuild in store for this Team, but we cant let Indy run away with the division in the future. With every successful campaign Luck has in the NFL, his legend and hype will continue to grow. He has proven to be everything and more for that franchise and a real winner. This team really needs that kinda luck(no pun intended). Whatever decision the brass makes, I'll still root for my boys on Kirby....GO Texans!!
LOL, exactly. I don't get some people. I will say, that there was one poster on here getting torched by the forum for predicting an awful record. He noted that this team wasn't deep enough. Boy was he right.
