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Rockets going after Granger

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sydeffect, Feb 26, 2014.

  1. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

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    This is all that needs to be said.
     
  2. GoRox2013

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    Parson has played PF more than 10 minutes this season? I'm not sure about that. How much as Casspi? Because he's not a PF either:rolleyes:
     
  3. jtr

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    The only thing that I can figure out is that they actually increased their salary cap by more than $4M, getting closer to the league minimum salary. But I honestly do not know.

    Never mind. According to ESPN they received the Pacer's 2015 second round pick.

    "Traded F Evan Turner and F-C Lavoy Allen to Indiana for F Danny Granger and a 2015 second-round draft pick. "
     
  4. Carl Herrera

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    The shooting % numbers don't look pretty but I trust the team to have looked at all available info on Granger.

    For now, it seems like a low risk opportunity. At the very most, the cost of Granger is a non-rotation player plus the $2.6M room midlevel exception, which is gone if you don't use it anyway (and there aren't too many candidates to use it on). Maybe he'll agree to a 2nd year at $2.7M or so or even make that a player option so it's injury insurance for Danny Granger.

    Don't know if Granger is interested but there is a chance for him to play the Delfino role on this team, which can be substantial as long as Granger is healthy.
     
  5. BruceWayne

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    Casspi is a non-factor. With hamilton here now, I expect to see his minutes reduced to blow-outs only, or the occasional foul trouble relief effort.

    And good riddance. He has been horrible all year.

    Hamilton was quite impressive last night, but I see him as more of a 3 than a 2.

    Granger's been really bad this year and I doubt he can get back to his previous form. May be worth the risk tho. Either way, I'm rolling with morey's decision.
     
  6. coachbadlee

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    Dam!!!!! Danny Granger is 30??!!!!:eek: I didn't know he was 30!!! Dam!
     
  7. DrNuegebauer

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    They didn't.

    They traded Evan Turner for draft considerations. Granger was salary filler to make the deal work.

    Philly didn't want to go into the off-season with Turner as a 'cap hold' against them, they had no intention of keeping him, but it makes it very hard to keep him when he can just walk.
    Considering Turner is a volume stats guy, they did pretty well to get the pick.
     
  8. Phillyrocket

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    Very low risk move at a position of need. Garcia and Casspi are giving you nothing. Granger is coming off a looooong layoff and may just need more time to get back in playing shape. Even if he sucks this this year he might be back to a real contributor next year. It's small moves like this that you have to roll the dice on the west is too damn tough.
     
  9. DrNuegebauer

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    If he signed on for the 2nd year, it would be absolute gold.

    Granger might be shooting awfully this season, but that's to be expected as he works his way back from a serious injury. Most likely he'll revert to his mean next season.

    It makes Chandler Parsons a bit more 'expendable' in the off-season if Granger comes in. He provides essentially the same things, but at a higher level (based on his past).

    Having said that, I highly doubt a max guy takes $2.6m then $2.7m for the next 2 seasons. He's better off taking the 1 year deal and hitting free agency, surely he'd get a bigger paycheck?
     
  10. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Casspi plays PF primarily when the team goes small. It's very, very rare to see Parsons play stretch 4.
     
  11. coachbadlee

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    Seeing as Granger is 30 years old, i would be hesitant in giving up Casspi to sign him. Garcia yes, but Casspi, idk.
    Now i am starting to see why he has started to decline. This whole time i was thinking he was 26-27.
     
  12. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I'm all for dropping Smith. We owe it to Garcia and Casspi to keep them. Both had better offers to play elsewhere but chose us.
     
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    I would go with Garcia IF they plan on making room for Granger.
     
  14. Codman

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    I'll probably get burned again,but meh, there's too many of you that are legit, good Rockets fans.

    1. As I mentioned everything I heard from "my people" in the Danny is Waived thread, he IS and has been one of Morey's under-the-radar targets for awhile.

    2. From what I heard today, Miami is a NO. (DG is not a "chaser." He'll fight for a ring.)

    3. We are being highly, highly considered. Morey is smart enough to see beyond this season. Granger is recovering, and when he hits his stride again, watch out.

    4. I don't think Morey is going to strike out twice.

    5. (edit) Don't underestimate the power of friendship in the NBA. It's a rough business. Trust/ Camaraderie is rare.


    Love ya'll. Don't say too many nasty things.

    Peace.

    Cod
     
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  15. Sydeffect

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    My only fear about potentially signing him is him being a distraction if he doesn't get playing time ALA Stephen Jackson
     
  16. davidio840

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    Soo.. What your saying is.... We might get Granger? :eek:
     
  17. Carl Herrera

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    Agreed. This is why I mentioned the player option on the 2nd year. It's just insurance for Granger in case he gets injured in Houston. If something bad happens, he can opt in and still collect $2.7M. Otherwise, he can choose free agency and sign with any team that he wants to sign with.

    Of course this provision favors Granger but it may be what it costs to bring him on board with several competitors in the market. I don't think the $2.7M would be too much of a burden next year given the cap situation even if Granger can't play at all.

    If Granger does play well, though, the team won't have his full Bird Rights this summer, but it will have the full non-Taxpayer Midlevel Exception, which may be enough to retain Granger if you are creative about the structure.
     
  18. shastarocket

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    Answer this truthfully, do you think Casspi brings something to the table that will push us into legit contender status?

    At the very minimum, Granger can give us what Casspi does currently, and at best he can become our defensive 4.

    Don't forget the invaluable playoff experience dueling with Lebron and Deng

    All that for an extremely low risk deal?

    Why are we debating this???
     
  19. FeaR

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    Codman at it again ... Thanks so much for the info.
     
  20. Nook

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    It isn't just his shooting. Granger just isn't the same player that he was. He no longer has any explosiveness and cannot create his own shot or finish anymore.

    Could he get better? Perhaps but I don't think the odds favor him.
     

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