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Rockets going after Granger

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sydeffect, Feb 26, 2014.

  1. dobro1229

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    I believe Grangers salary, even if bought out, will still count against the cap entirely, or at least the portion Philly will pay will be counted on their team salary at the year end. The amount of salary they buy him out for should be what counts against the salary floor (I believe its actual paid that counts with the floor tax but correct me if I'm wrong Bima).

    So you take out the little bit Philly saves and they are under the floor again not by 14 million but probably around 2 or 3 million.

    The Sixers are currently at 51.3 against the floor of 52.8.

    Lets say they buyout Granger for 13 million.... Then they are only 3 to 4 million below the floor which means they spread those couple million amongst their current roster.

    -So does Philly have any motivation to buyout Granger.... no... none at all other than to just be nice.

    -Does Philly have motivation to KEEP Granger.... yes, as they will hold his bird rights and could potentially use his salary in a S&T scenario in July.

    So basically Hinkie is doing Granger a solid here, and looking to give his current roster a little season end bonus most likely depending on how much they are able to get Granger to accept in a buyout... which will probably his salary minus what he's planning on making with his next team.
     
  2. coachbadlee

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    This^
     
  3. emjohn

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    I would absolutely love to grab him. Waive Casspi or Smith to free the spot up. You aren't going to get a premier player in return, but there's so much to be said for grizzled playoff veterans. They can be immensely helpful in the postseason even without the numbers of their heyday - Robert Horry Effect.
     
  4. eman

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    Granger may not be able to help us much this year-- but next year might be a better story. It'll be interesting to see what DM does here. Garcia hasn't been himself, and Cassipi has been inconsistent, and neither of them were ever the All Star Granger was for most of his career. DM might base his decision-making more on medical reports than anything else. Guess we'll have to wait until March 1 to see our playoff roster.
     
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    Haven't looked at his numbers this year because they don't matter. Detroit is a toxic situation. Their offensive is absolutely terrible. They are a team with no floor spreaders. And yes, they take a ton of long 2's. Why do you think Villanueva wants out of there? Because they are terrible and their system is terrible. Villanueva wants to come here and pick and pop. I don't have to see his percentages. I know he's a good shooter. In this system, running the pick and pop he's be somewhere between 38-44% from downtown. And no, he isn't going to come here and bomb long 2's. That's not our system. We're not going to allow that.
     
  6. Horry33

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    oh man if he somehow was halfway healthy....he'd be awesome as a 6th man that can play the stretch 4 against some of the smaller teams.
     
  7. jtr

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    Thank you for the explanation.
     
  8. SF3isBack!!

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    You broke my sarcasm meter.. I hate you, lol. Awesome post.
     
  9. GoRox2013

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    Niether is Parson or Garcia, but hey
     
  10. dobro1229

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    Not on offense. Parsons would be at the top of the key in more of the SF role creating in the P&R and would be more of a facilitator while Granger would probably be there to just stretch out the defense in the spot where the PF would typically be in the 4 out 1 in sets.

    If they run Longhorns with this group I still think Granger is better in this PF role either rolling to the rim or being able to pick and pop which is something he was very good at in the past.

    On defense, since Beverley came back Houston has switched almost entirely to Miami's style of switch everything "position-less" defense. I dont think it really matters who you think should be guarding who. In all actuality Harden is probably better at guarding most PF's one on one than Parsons or Granger so maybe he's your PF on defense for all we know.

    Point is, dont think too hard about whose the 2,3, or 4 with the Rockets if they do plan on going small if they bring in Granger to play a large role. The Rockets are far from being a traditional basketball team so try to not think of positions in such a traditional format with them.
     
  11. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Parsons and Garcia haven't played PF for more than 10 minutes combined this season.
     
  12. meh

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    Actually I'm pretty sure they have no need to do this. It would be one thing if they're over the cap. But they're under it. They don't need to match salaries in trades. Philly also has stated they are not looking to go after anyone in the offseason, nor would any stars bother to force a trade there.

    So to Philly this really is a no-risk proposition.
     
  13. dobro1229

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    That and their long term plans probably aren't to trade for 14 million dollars in salary this Summer anyways. I'm sure in conversations between Hinkie and owners on this he probably said... Either we are getting a superstar in trade or we are getting a prospect on a rookie scale salary. There aren't really any scenarios where they could see them using Granger in a S&T based on the players they are looking to acquire in the next 3 years.

    I was merely pointing out that they really dont have any motivation to get him off of their roster right now other than to just be polite, and maintain good relationships among players and agents they might want to do business with in the future.

    Technically they do have the ability to use him in a S&T, but as you pointed out its highly unlikely it fits in their plans which is why they are buying him out.
     
  14. TheRealAllpro

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    Can someone explain to me why Philly traded for Granger in the first place?
     
  15. Krizzle

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    My preferred SF/PF would be Caron tho.
     
  16. FeaR

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    They love second round picks.
     
  17. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I hint they wanted Granger but respected his wishes to let him go. A shame because Granger could revive his career on a team like Philly. He will have two studs next year.
     
  18. LosPollosHermanos

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    He is still a really good defender .
     
  19. dobro1229

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    2 second round picks they collected in a salary dump. I would think that would be pretty obvious.
     
  20. OremLK

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    He would play either the 3 or the 4 depending on the situation and matchups. That's why he would actually get a good amount of minutes off the bench.
     

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