That's silly. Every GM would pick mario over Reggie. Contract is a consideration because Mario is a much better player compared to other pass rushers than bush is to RBs which is why the offers for him are a lot higher. I agree Reggie has turned his career around but he's a pretty good back. He isn't a top one yet. Quite a huge disappointment considering how much lower other RBs were in the draft compared to the number 2 pick. Not arguing he isn't good but to say he was the best out of the 06 draft is silly.
to say williams was the best is silly too. Mcnair went cheap and the texans are a losers mentality since then. Lots of mcnair apologists still holding on to the 'mario williams was the right choice' Mcnair is too cheap to pay for this devotion.. but if I didnt know better might think some of you are paid shills for mcnair.
Nowhere in there is a single reason why bush is better. Bush held out from training camp with the saints and finally got paid. How did that work out for them? 26 mil guaranteed, 60 mil contract. How many pro bowls?
So, granted he didn't live up to the hype with the Saints and was overpaid, but you act like he did nothing for the team. He was a damn big part of their team. They used him differently - so if you show his rushing stats they are poor, but take into account the way they used him, he was a big part of the offense. Here is one stat for you: Reggie Bush Saints Career 2006-2010 - 33 Total Touchdowns. And in his rookie year, 2006 he had 88 receptions. That's more than most receivers get each season. He followed that up in 2007 with 73 receptions. Those are Welker type numbers.
I wouldn't say that. Mario has been solid. It's at least a discussion between him and Mario now. Let's be honest, Bush would have been killed in the Texans backfield with the o-line they had at the time, so even if Bush turns into a HOF running back, I still think the Texans made the right call by not taking him at that particular time. However if Bush continues this way over the next 3-4 years then he quite possibly will be viewed as the best player in that draft, but that still doesn't mean the Texans made a mistake by not taking him.
Fair point, but I think most people don't realize the contributions to the Saints Bush had. Even though he didn't live up to the hype at all (if that was even possible) - he was still a large part of that offense.
Maybe the best player in the top 3 picks of that draft. And that's not the case yet. If Mario had the kind of year he had this year on a team that wasn't wasting away in Buffalo, his narrative would be a lot different. And look at some of the perennial pro-bowlers taken that year: Vernon Davis Haloti Ngata Nick Mangold Maurice Jones-Drew Tamba Hali DeAngelo Williams Joseph Addai
That's not the point i'm making -- of the three he has turned out to be the better player and still has a few years left after putting up his best season last year. He's definitely not the top player from that draft though.
i didn't know he did that well in Buffalo - looks like Mario is back to elite pass rusher status - I don't think it's a contest really. There's a reason why dominant edge rushers get big contracts, and 3rd down/pass-catching specialist backs like Bush don't.
I haven't seen any reasons how Reggie is a better player than Mario from either of you. 3 probowls vs none. Much higher ranked among his position than bush. Valued way higher than bush as well financially. There is no way a GM would pick bush over Mario.
and how many Rookie of year does mario williams have? so that makes bush not good? bush was the consensus and it turns out bush is pretty damn good. mario was chosen because he was 'signable' If you have the #1 pick and you go with the most 'signable' guy you should sell the team right there and go do something else. That was classic texans 'playing no to lose' foreshadowing. The texans are a loser org and that is the fact. a study in shi**t. Sorry to say it but bush is damn good and that is a fact too. and young was roy and we don't have williams either. all facts. and williams sucked much of time too with texans anyway. Not sure what the sensitivity is about williams to cover for texans for what? what do you owe the texans? do you work in pr for the texans? are you related to bob lanier? Do you have a dog in this fight somehow? then admit the truth that it was reggie bush then and today. Texans suck and took a number 3 at number 1 because of money. No other reason. classy organization I tell ya.
Okay, but he does have 1 more Pro Bowl appearance than Bush. You're pissed at the Texans - we get it. What sensitivity are you talking about in this thread? Guy doesn't even play here anymore and the 2006 draft is ancient history. Suggesting that Mario Williams is currently better than Reggie Bush has nothing to do with being sensitive about who the Texans drafted 8 years ago.
I've given plenty of reasons why Mario is a better player at his position than Reggie. I don't know what you are babbling about. I think you are thinking of Bob Mcnair, the coach of the Texans. Bob Lanier is the old Houston mayor from when the Oilers left. How is responding to a post being sensitive? And Mario sucked with the Texans? Be honest with yourself dude. You may not have liked what you think their reasoning was but it turned out to be the best pick they could have made. They had a pro-bowl DE while the texans gave a 60 mil contract with 25 million to a guy they traded away. I think Reggie is on his way to a good career. He has had a couple good seasons. I'm not doubting that. The only reason I chimed into the thread was the notion that he is better than Mario. IBTL is the ultimate testament to why fans shouldn't think they are GMs. Texans fans should feel lucky with didn't spend 100 million on a 1st pick Reggie.
The way Bushs' career has gone he should have been a 2-3 round pick not #1 overall. Mario has had a very good career, more in line for the #1. I didn't want either. I wanted VY or D-Brick but the Texans made the right pick.