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NBA All-Time Draft 2014

Discussion in 'Fantasy Sports' started by YourSecretLover, Feb 12, 2014.

  1. jvu

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    Haha in some sort of way I believe we may account for certain things in a way. I was mainly against your opinion Lebron > oscar > Shaq > russ but at some point we tend to disagree which makes things interesting. Haha

    I remember him being a beast as you refer but it just didn't last long enough for me to consider him elite and high pick (1 all star no championships all nba 3rd teamer). Are you basing "primes" on a year basis? I'm taking business capstone and my primes are meant for 3-5 years (mainly 5 years) to accumulate enough data. A yearly basis is too broad.. How was non Cousy in 1953? No one knows.. But they can get an idea of who he was in a 3-5 basis..Anyway Coleman was a one time all star for a reason. Never been on all-defense all nba 2nd team FY. I believe he should've been drafted (if not drafted).
     
  2. VBG

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    Constant flopping. No defense. Just not fun to watch. My least favorite player in the NBA before he joined the Rockets.

    I can't hate him anymore because he helps the Rockets. But yeah, I like Dwight a lot more than Harden.
     
  3. jvu

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    I agree u don't like the flopping at all but enjoy his euros. At least he doesn't cry like Lebron does though. Just wish basketball was like it was in the 90s. It was tough and fun to watch.

    MJ/ Rice, Stockton, Malone , Larry Johnson , Shaq , early Kobe, Hakeem, etc

    >>> our current generation gets fouled for everything! Flops need to go!

    Damn I miss 90s basketball
     
  4. VBG

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    I was too young in the 90s.

    There are actually a lot of teams I LOVE watching. A wide variety of teams too. I love watching Memphis, Portland, Phoenix, Golden State, Indiana, San Antonio.

    Just not the Rockets. Ugh.
     
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    I agree, which is why I declined it earlier, but I really wanted sabonis on my team. Hondo isn't too much of a drop off for him.
     
  6. RocketsRed14

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    How do the rockets not know how to inbound the ball late in the game? I see one pick being set for harden, but he's still shadowed. Pisses me off.
     
  7. VBG

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    I don't know why we don't run more Harden/Dwight pick and roll. There are barely any teams that can even try to stop it. We play nice up tempo basketball but it looks so sloppy. Like we're just an awesome pickup team.
     
  8. DonatasFanboy

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    Coleman's prime wasn't one year. He was the supposed next big thing for several years in the early 90s. Outside the mental part, he had Duncan type talent, but he was extremely lazy and mentally soft.

    Anyway, prime is prime. Some people have it long, others for one reason or another - injuries, drugs, too much food, laziness, or whatever - don't.

    The point is that everything, including the mental side, is part of how good a player is. You disagreed with how I view LeBron and for some reason you decided that I must be ignoring a whole dimension of basketball (mental side). That's silly. All of us account for mental side. Just like all of us account for defense or offense.
    And we don't draft someone like Coleman high in these drafts exactly because despite all his skills and physical gifts, which rivaled any PF in history, he wasn't all that great because of the mental side.

    Why do you write this "oscar > shaq" thing, btw? I thought it was a mistake so I ignored it, but you keep repeating it.
     
  9. Horry33

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    Agreed. Howard needs to stand still during picks and then roll hard. Instead he does the opposite of setting somewhat moving screens and then kind of stands there. With Dwight's athleticism and harden's midrange game it should be close to unstoppable. I will admit Howard's effort was better yesterday but I'd run 50 times a game if I were them.
     
  10. RocketsRed14

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    Rockets don't have the coaching for that.

    Honestly though, had they kept their turnover below 10, the Phoenix game would have been a blowout. They got 29 points out of it, most coming in the third where they went off. If they manage to cut down on turnovers, that's when they look great, but it comes with more experience.
     
  11. VBG

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    It's crazy how much I'm complaining when we were a play away from being on a 10 game winning streak.
     
  12. jvu

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    Your comments to Horry
    "If it's achievements, then I'd replace Oscar with LeBron already. Maybe Duncan instead of Hakeem as well.

    If it's prime like in this draft, then LeBron over Oscar and Shaq over Russell."
     
  13. Voice of Aus

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    So when we voting? I wanna collect my prize
     
  14. RocketsRed14

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    Right? Might as well not vote. You got Dolph schayes on your team.
     
  15. Voice of Aus

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    Career best single season stats of 25ppg 14rpg 90% FT
    Career best single playoff stats of 29ppg 16rpg .933 FT
    x6 time all nba 1st team
    x6 time all nba 2nd team
    x13 allstar apprearences
    Top 35 ever in
    - career win shares
    - win shares per 48
    - defensive win shares
    - offensive win shares
    - PER
    - Total rebounds
    - MVP award shares
    - HOF probability
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/schaydo01.html

    All stats from basketball reference, but you mad breh, tell me again what LMA has ever done compared to dolph's career?
     
    #1015 Voice of Aus, Feb 24, 2014
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  16. RedNation

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    Wait voa actually drafted Dolph Schayes. HAHA.

    I will refer you to my previous video. Dolph is the one taking the two handed set shots.

    I still remember how much hate Dolph got when Horry drafted him. :grin:

    Maybe you can convince us VOA!!

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/weI0YJDXLww" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  17. jvu

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    classical sex music.. thats pretty intense.
     
  18. RocketsRed14

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    Career best single season stats of 25ppg 14rpg 90% FT
    Career best single playoff stats of 29ppg 16rpg .933 FT
    x6 time all nba 1st team
    x6 time all nba 2nd team
    x13 allstar apprearences
    Top 35 ever in
    - career win shares
    - win shares per 48
    - defensive win shares
    - offensive win shares
    - PER
    - Total rebounds
    - MVP award shares
    - HOF probability
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/schaydo01.html

    All stats from basketball reference, but you mad breh, tell me again what LMA has ever done compared to dolph's career?

    6'7 pf without the strength or athleticism of Barkley? He's going to struggle, look at all the bigs in this draft, I don't see anyone he'll be able to defend of score on.

    You got a solid team though. Bench doesn't Affect judging by much.
     
  19. Voice of Aus

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    Maybe I should of taken Brandon Roy over him damn.

    Someone who is elite in all those stats I listed isn't a scrub

    + if he isn't the biggest problem with my team then I think I'm in a good position
     
  20. Horry33

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    Good luck. I had a team with Walt Frazier, Drexler, Dr.J, Unseld, Hakeem, earl monroe, chris mullin and Dolph was my 8th man but there was so much disdain for my team because I had Schayes.
     
    #1020 Horry33, Feb 24, 2014
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