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Is Johnny Football the Pick We Are Missing?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by solid, Dec 18, 2013.

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  1. endoftheworld

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    How about that 4.12 sec dash by 225 lb Bo Jackson
     
  2. SacTown

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    Yeah I'm still not sure if I believe that one. I know it was hand timed as was Deion's but it's just hard to believe.

    I'm surprised Manziel wasn't faster. Looks like he bulked up a bit which probably slowed him down.
     
  3. endoftheworld

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    To move that fast that big, I wish they had electronic timers for Bo

    I was thinking he would run a 4.5 worst a 4.55
     
  4. Remii

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    Do you know about Jerry Rice's 40 time...? 4.7... But yet he out ran everyone on Sundays.

    The 40 time just validates straight line speed and players rarely get to run in a straight line so it's one of the most meaningless events at the combine but gets the most attention.

    Andre Ellington ran a 4.6 40 at the combine last year but he looks like one of the fastest running backs in the NFL when he's on the field.
     
  5. Ottomaton

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    10 yard split is a good number to look at to break it down a bit more. I haven't checked to see if they've posted them, but the 10 yard split shows the time for the first 10 yards of that 40 yard dash. I know it's a big number that teams use in evaluating rush linebackers. It's good for measuring that short little burst of acceleration when you take off.

    Edit: Manziel and Derek Carr both ran 1.59 10 yd split which was tied for best. Cam ran 1.58 and Luck ran 1.62.
     
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    Exactly. People put way too much stock into how well or bad somebody does at the 40. In game situations, How often are guys running a straight line, at that distance? its cool to watch but i dont think it should make or break a player
     
  7. Luckyazn

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    Yeah is overrated if you ask me about these 40s

    Good added info on the players but shouldnt be hyped the way it is

    During a real game, there's contact and routes if the guy gets open he's goin' to break loose.

    What's the big different a guy can run straight wit no contact not looking for a football by .2-.4 second?
     
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    Man can you imagine him in Sumlins offense behind that line. Dude was ridiculously fast.
     
  9. ths balla

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    56.0% cmp..... 3299yds, 21tds/11int...1299yds rushing, 17tds = Vick

    68.9% cmp..... 7820yds, 63tds/22int...2169yds rushing, 30tds = Manziel
     
  10. SamFisher

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    Vick played in a pretty antiquated era of offense - imagine him in a modern spread/read option attack.
     
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    He'd get broken, just like Manziel will.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    I mean in the NCAA - he would have been a beast in a modern hurry-up spread.
     
  13. endoftheworld

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    These stats mean absolutely nothing

    Imagine if Vick had Mike Evans and co. and that ridiculously good A&M O-line
     
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    A beast is an under statement, he would have several Heisman/National Championship trophies in his locker
     
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    I actually still think Johnny would have been a better college QB than him. Definitely a better passer and I think more ellusive, just not as fast.
     
  16. endoftheworld

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    No Mike Evans and no all-american o-line

    He is a better college qb than Manziel, barely, thats taking into account the lack of a supporting cast
     
  17. Ziggy

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    Tannehill is faster. As fast as Wilson too. But he doesn't run. 40 doesn't matter, nobody cares.
     
  18. Bogey

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    Yes Evans is great, but our second leading WR was Labhart this year. He was practicing with the womens BB team last year. I think his accuracy and completion % make JFF a better colleg QB than Vick would have been in todays systems. But that is a matter of opinion so I'll just agree to disagree.
     
  19. endoftheworld

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    Johnny is the "Reggie Bush" of qbs
     
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    Imagine if Vick played against an SEC defense and not the ACC
     
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