1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Uncle Bob praises Clowney.

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Raven, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. rezdawg

    rezdawg Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2000
    Messages:
    18,351
    Likes Received:
    1,149
    Someone with better bench numbers will have a better ability to push off an engaged offensive lineman. Doesnt matter if he's prone, pushing against a bar, working against inanimate objects, etc...the bottom line is that chest, tricep, and anterior deltoid strength are all involved in a bench press and in a position where an offensive lineman has a hold of you and you're trying to push off.

    I find that a lot more useful than a DLineman running a 40 yard dash, which will never happen in a game.

    JJ Watt ran a 4.84...and did 34 reps. I would take that all day for a defensive lineman over someone that runs really, really fast.

    Sure, there are exceptions...but the majority of rushers that are successful do it more off of their strength (bench and leg strength) than their 40 yard time.
     
  2. Remii

    Remii Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2013
    Messages:
    7,622
    Likes Received:
    106
    And what NFL talent on the Texans defense are you referring to...??? Lol...

    49ers already had a loaded defense that is allowing Smith to be a good player. Clowney won't have that luxury.

    And yea, the Texans fans wanted Smith _ and they were wrong... Just like we may be wrong for wanting Clowney, Teddy, or Johnny.
     
  3. Two Sandwiches

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2002
    Messages:
    23,135
    Likes Received:
    15,071
    If you think the Texans don't have talent on defense, then I just don't know what to say to you.


    I guess we have finally proven that you know nothing about football.


    7th in yards/game, 3rd in passing yards/game, albeit not great in rushing yards a game (23rd), and points a game (24th), but that has more to do with turnovers than anything. That's last year.

    2012 - 7th in yards a game, 16th in passing yards a game, 7th in rushing yards a game, 9th in points a game.

    And this is with a coordinator that routinely tried to fit a square peg in a round hole.

    So, how do the Texans not have an NFL level defense?


    Get out of here with your nonsensical, pessimistic BS.
     
    #1263 Two Sandwiches, Feb 24, 2014
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2014
  4. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,582
    Likes Received:
    32,092
    His first jump was 37.5 inches and he looked disappointed about it. He'll get another attempt soon.
     
  5. tmacfor35

    tmacfor35 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Messages:
    23,978
    Likes Received:
    14,622
    Wrong how? He is the best pure pass rusher in the league with JJ Watt?

    This kid smh.
     
  6. Remii

    Remii Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2013
    Messages:
    7,622
    Likes Received:
    106
    Clowney hasn't played an NFL snap so you're jumping the gun saying he's the best in the league and he wasn't the best pass rusher in college.
     
  7. sugrlndkid

    sugrlndkid Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    11,543
    Likes Received:
    1,780
    Goodness gracious...just saw the highlights...my goodness gracious the man is fast...The speed of the edge is going to be impossible to block. Something tells me he was working on impressing folks with his speed rather than brute strength...The Texans better be sure that the QB they want is the best for this organization, bc we cant afford to pass up on a guy like this.

    Mercilus, Watt, Draft Nose Tackle(ie. Daniel McCullers), Crick, and Clowney... That is a massive and scary front 5...
     
  8. Remii

    Remii Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2013
    Messages:
    7,622
    Likes Received:
    106
    Yea... Our defense was great last year... Whatever you say buddy :)
     
  9. Two Sandwiches

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2002
    Messages:
    23,135
    Likes Received:
    15,071
    If we had Cushing all year, and a competent quarterback, we would have been absolutely fine on defense last year. Fact of the matter is that we have consistently been better than the majority of other NFL defenses over the past few years.

    If you want, you can PM me your address. I'll mail you some Beano. Maybe then, you'll stop talking out of your ass so much.:)
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,582
    Likes Received:
    32,092
    I won't go that far, our defense was fundamentally flawed because we didn't have enough talent to get any pressure on the QB without blitzing because our 4 man rush was essentially JJ Watt and no one else.
     
  11. Bogey

    Bogey Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    2,241
    Likes Received:
    111
    Not to mention, I think our DB's are well below par as a unit. Our OLB's were horrible. Watt, Smith and Cushing were main guys on our D. Hurts when Cushing goes down.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,582
    Likes Received:
    32,092
    Put Clowney on our defense last year and we probably win at least 2 or 3 more games easy. Not being able to get pressure without blitzing killed us a lot.
     
  13. Remii

    Remii Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2013
    Messages:
    7,622
    Likes Received:
    106
    No thanks Michael Sam... I pass :)
     
  14. TheRealist137

    TheRealist137 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Messages:
    35,425
    Likes Received:
    22,560
    you mean texans would be 4-12 instead of 2-14?

    Sign me up!
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,582
    Likes Received:
    32,092
    When just one player can give a disaster of a football team a few more wins minimum, he's pretty awesome.
     
  16. tmacfor35

    tmacfor35 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Messages:
    23,978
    Likes Received:
    14,622
    A competent QB gets this team back to the playoffs. Pass on the DE and take Teddy.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,582
    Likes Received:
    32,092
    Not if the defense isn't fixed. If we had Teddy last year we wouldn't have won any more games than we did.
     
  18. TheRealist137

    TheRealist137 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Messages:
    35,425
    Likes Received:
    22,560
    If TB was even an average QB last year and just took care of the ball, we'd easily win 4 more games.

    Schaub was horrible so obviously TB could be better w/o even trying. You don't think TB is better than Case?
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,582
    Likes Received:
    32,092
    I don't think Bridgewater would perform any better than Schaub and Keenum did last year under the circumstances, no. With no run game, a porous O line, and a defense that couldn't get any pressure on opposing teams without blitzing, Bridgewater wouldn't have done anything.
     
  20. tmacfor35

    tmacfor35 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Messages:
    23,978
    Likes Received:
    14,622
    He didn't watch many games last year, and fails to realize what a good QB means to a team. His love for Clowney is understandable, but assumes he will already be a stud before playing an NFL snap all while having work ethic issues which were highlighted by his own college coach. He's ignorant and unwilling to be objective.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now