Yes, I'm starting to doubt the wisdom of trading for Rondo. Not because I doubt the player or how he'd mesh with Harden, but because I wouldn't want to mess with the Rockets' chemistry (although their defense does contribute to my nightly teeth-grinding; but I guess that's why God invented night-guards). And the price of Chandler Parsons would obviously be steep. Then I think what it might be like with a real point guard on the team. If Harden could be relied on for more 11 assist, 1 turnover nights...but that was against a sorely-decimated Lakers. Lin, though? He'll leave after next season anyway, so I could see him getting traded away. But again, replaced by whom? Because he has value backing up both guard spots, and on the right team might just be an 18 pt 6 asst guy. If we could somehow swing a deal for Jordan Hill to back up Dwight. Lakers want a 2nd rounder. Would Philadelphia still be an option? That sort of thing.
Hello everyone this is my first post usually i just read through the threads, but this deadline has finally cracked me and i wanted to give my two cents on this rumor and see what your opinions are 1.I want to say that iam PRO-Rondo...i think he's a superstar and i would very regretably trade CP for his services if we were getting a sf in return to block garcia/Casspi of ever seeing starting min (love ariza or deny if thats possible) 2.Rondos importance is highlighted during the playoffs when the half-court offense and half court defense becomes vital..If a playoff game against the thunder, clippers,heat, or pacers came down to those last 2 possessions who do you want on the floor rondo harden ariza jones howard OR beverley harden parson jones howard 3.As much as i hate to say it because i love me some CP , but he is replaceable on the basketball court and Rajon Rondo is not....sometimes basketball is as simple as that..(But DM also has to factor in weather he wants to pay CP 12m a year in 2015, and that his back spasms wont be a factor down the road) 4.Last but certainly not least is that Rondo has been there before and conquered it. This intangible is something i highly value even though i know it can not be measured..Ive gone through the growing pains in many different sports with many different teams, the one constant that my teams lacked when we finally made the playoffs was "championship experience"... DM has a very tough decision ahead because of how well this team has been playing. I personally would make this trade , but iam glad i dont have to make that decision
Yes. Asik/Lin & Picks for Rondo/Wallace works IMO, if you asked Ainge (after the deadline) what he would rather have Parsons or getting rid of Wallace's contract & picks I think that's a pretty valid argument to be had. Parsons isn't going to be able to carry the Celtics alone into the next generation, and he's going to potentially leave them in free agency after next year anyways if they aren't a contender. leaving out Parsons, but getting rid of Wallace's salary should be huge for Ainge. Also you have a ton of picks and 29 million dollars of expiring salary to trade next season. You trade Wallace and you get to expedite the rebuilding process and potentially set yourself up much better for a mega "Harden-like" trade. You trade for Parsons, and keep Wallace and your risking not being able to totally rebuild for another year.
It's called slashing and yes, he does that very well. What I'm talking about is the ability to get the ball at the top of the key and beat your man to the basket. Neither is good or above average at that. And neither needs to be to help this team, so how much do we lose from the SF if you pull Chandler and replace him with Ariza? What stats does Ariza put up if you trade those two straight up? Now add Rondo. Are things better or worse? Now, I already said Parsons is the better SF, but this isn't about trading Parsons for Ariza. If you are the Spurs, Clippers, Thunder, Pacers or Heat what scares you more: Rondo/Bev Harden/Garcia Ariza/Casspi/Covington Jones/DMo Dwight/GSmith or Bev/Lin Harden/Garcia Parsons/Casspi Jones/DMo Dwight/guy who refuses to play hard bc he's not a starter Pick your poison.
Sorry it offended you don. But we ought to be able to see this. Morey's not giving up Parsons. Parsons is the ace in the hole. If we get our 3rd superstar, Parsons is the single guy that puts us past Miami and any other 3-superstar collection. He's that good. And he's on a minimum deal which is giving us tons of cap flexibility. Morey is not going to trade Parsons here for anybody short of Lebron. He's not going to trade Parsons for Rondo or Love or anybody. We'll either get a deal done for Rondo without Parsons or we won't get a deal done. Trading Parsons for Rondo is a lateral move. It just leaves us short at the SF spot and has depleted our asset pile. Any educated Rox fan oughta know this going in. All sorts of crap gets thrown around and discussed at the deadline. But you have to sift out the obvious fiction. Boston would love to have Parsons. If we would give them Parsons the deal would have already been done. Boston went sniffing around for Gordon Hayward. So, obviously they want a high-class SF. But that doesn't mean Morey is going to do it. HE AIN'T GONNA DO IT! We'd like to have Rondo. But not at the cost of Parsons. So you've got a standoff. Morey already knows the max he is willing to pay for Rondo...the absolute max. Ainge either knows what that max is or Morey is going to call him with 5 minutes left and offer him that max trade offer for Rondo. Both guys are scrambling around trying to see what ancillary trades they can make with these pieces so they can put something bigger together that is even more favorable to both sides. But IT WON'T INVOLVE PARSONS! And you ought to know that without me belaboring the point.
I don't think anyone would trade Parsons for Ariza but if Parsons is moved for Rondo, then Ariza might not be a bad possibility. He did not just have one good game shooting, he is hitting over .400 from 3pt for the season and hit .360 last season. He is certainly a better 3 then anyone on our team not named Parsons.
Why are people even suggesting trading Parsons to get Rondo is even a possibility? Won't happen. Why would you trade a young, rising, key part of your team, who was instrumental in getting Howard here and to the success they've had so far this season, who is on a great contract, for Rondo, who is coming off an injury, and leave a hole at SF that's bigger than the one you're filling at PG? This is nonsense. I'd love to get Rondo, but Parsons wouldn't be part of the deal. If Rondo does end up in Houston, Morey will also deal for a power forward who can shoot the three. Just because a team inquires about Parsons as part of a deal (they'd be crazy not to) doesn't mean it's realistically being discussed. He's about as close to untouchable at this trade deadline as anyone on the team.
Chandler has more upside than Rondo? Did you mean to say that? As in potential to be the better player? Or like more years left in the tank?
Some posters jumped the shark long ago. To be fair, I respect his opinion. There are more than a few posters who don't discern opinion from fact. o·pin·ion /əˈpinyən/ noun a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. "I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance" fact /fakt/ noun a thing that is indisputably the case. "she lacks political experience—a fact that becomes clear when she appears in public"
Trade Parsons...keep Parsons....trade....keep. Yes trade....no keep.... Spoiler ...... Keep hope alive!! Go Rockets!!! ....... ....... .......
Responded to a poster in a different thread. Guess I could have merged. My bad. Tired. Hey bud, nah, I don't have any sort of title. I don't claim to be someone like Clutch, Doc, CyberX, Oeilpere, Popeye, the poster who knew about Stevie Franchise or King Drew. In fact, some random emails I've gotten have made me reconsider sharing the simple stuff I hear from a small group of people I know. Aren't Rockets fans supposed to be the coolest? Most of you are, but I am no Woj or Screamin' A Smith in the industry lol. I just know some people that know some people. We all have ears and people we trust. There are things I know about teams/players/coaches because of these people. Some things before trades, some after. However, we all know today is the day. I have some different people than King Drew. But the talks are legit about the "salty attitude" in Celtic's green. I've heard that he's cool with it either way because the Celtics are in the middle of rebuilding and getting over the hump. I do know that there is a major wall in the discussion because the Crybaby wants DM to crash and burn for a change this season. It's like you can't be happy for teams that are doing well without being happy with your own team. What I've been told is on a lesser scale than what many of you are hoping for. My opinion is that we don't need a MAJOR change, but some tweaks here and there for some toughness, leadership and flexibility. DM likes guys that can play multiple positions and find their own rhythm to accept new roles. As one person posted, some of the best deals are the deals you don't do. DM will take a home run if he has the bases loaded. We want to add to our wolf pack, not take away, from what I've heard. We've got our "MJ," our "Luc Longley" (That's wrong, Dwight is way better, but you get it", and our "Toni KuKoc" on this squad. We're just missing a Scottie (one that doesn't quit or calls people fat) to add to our brotherhood. There are a few of those out there, but they're rare and sometimes not easily seen. I've maintained that bruises heal, but sometimes you can only put a band-aid over cuts that become scars. Like a job, you have people that are positive, negative and indifferent to the task. Going into the playoffs, it seems like DM wants everyone focusing on the big picture. You don't have to be in a city driven by celebs to be part of something big. You could be some guys totally under the radar and strike gold by getting into DM's hands. ________ Anyway, I have a long day at work. I'm hoping for the best for the team and our fans. I'll check in and see what's going on. Hopefully some of the emails stop...I'm just your average die-hard Rockets fan. Love ya'll, Cod
I have to agree with this. Ariza is not as good with the basketball in his hands as Parsons. Not by a lot. Parsons is much much better going to the basket, taking his guy 1 on 1 (usually with the pump fake), ruining the brake etc... Ariza appears to have improved his game a lot but I don't think he is on Parsons level at all.
He won't trade him for Love either Chuck. Morey is trying to add a 3rd superstar while retaining Parsons as the 4th star.
Yep I meant years left in the tank. Apologies it's very late here Haha. But yeah obviously rondo the better player, just not sure he comes in and plays like it after an ACL tear and having to mesh with 2 other ball dominate players
The Rockets will not acquire Rondo, and I seriously have my doubts that they were ever that interested in him in the first place. He epitomizes everything Morey does not want in a player. He's a terribly inefficient scorer who can't hit a 3-pointer or a free throw to save his life. And if they did add him, it would kill the Rockets floor spacing, because you'd essentially have three starters on the floor at the same time who don't have consistent offensive outside of 10-12 feet. And if I'm Morey, I would hang up the phone the second that Parsons' name is mentioned. Regardless of what the rest of the NBA and some analysts may think, Parsons is the superior player to Rondo right now, and he fits this team on the floor and off of it like a glove. Plus, Rondo's value is crap after coming off the injury, and he's played really poorly since coming back. If I'm the Rockets, I would want Rondo and additional pieces for Parsons, not the other way around.
Gotcha, so you don't see the ridiculousness in saying what Morey will or won't do if you're not actually him. Cool. I'm with you now. Same playing field. I'm looking at you, you're looking at me, same place. This is great. How would you facilitate a 5 team deal that gets us 5 new starters? And say each of the moves. I'd love to know what Morey would do to try to make us better.
After reading the Celtics message board I don't think a deal is even possible from the rumors around the Celts owner. He basically doesn't want to trade Rondo and has told Ainge to set the bar extremely high in a trade. That rumor hasn't seem to have been talked about too much on CF. Maybe I missed it.
