[Cable Television] Matthew McConaughey & Woody Harrelson's 'True Detective'

tallanvor · Feb 19, 2014

Ottomaton said: ↑

The episode is on again tonight, and watching it, Marty is wearing a Pink Floyd t-shirt when they raid Ladou that seems out of character, so I assume it was chosen very intentionally:
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is he not in the same outfit he was in when he was undercover at the biker gang bar? iirc they haven't changed, but maybe i'm wrong.

EDIT: yeah here is a picture of him at the biker bar

I think he only wore it because he thought it made a good disguise.

Ziggy · Feb 20, 2014

tallanvor said: ↑

is he not in the same outfit he was in when he was undercover at the biker gang bar? iirc they haven't changed, but maybe i'm wrong.

EDIT: yeah here is a picture of him at the biker bar

I think he only wore it because he thought it made a good disguise.
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Agreed, and it also reminds you of the time period - attention to detail. Nothing more.

tallanvor · Feb 20, 2014

Grantland: True Knicks Detective

Det. Papania: What about Iman Shumpert? They sure have been trying to trade him a bunch. It’s not like he’s been playing well on offense. But he’s an athlete. Defends the perimeter. The team is almost seven points per 100 possessions better when he’s in the game.

Cohle: And two points better on offense per 100 possessions, despite Iman only shooting 33 percent with zero free-throw attempts over his last eight games. Listen, detectives, 14 years, hour after hour, watching Knicks draftees, wasted assets, young players who come in here all full of life and excitement over playing in the Garden, in New York City, making hashtags and all multipart handshake celebrations, jumping off the bench to high-five teammates — you know what you recognize after all that time? You look in their eyes as the trade rumors pile up, doesn’t matter if it’s on TV or in the paper, you can still read them. And you know what you see? At the end, they welcomed it. Welcomed the trade. Not at first. At first they were angry, bewildered, betrayed. But after month after month of being yanked around, not being developed, they realized how easy it was to just let go. That’s what happened to Iman.
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egr281 · Feb 20, 2014

tallanvor said: ↑

Grantland: True Knicks Detective
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No, just no

J Sizzle · Feb 20, 2014

tallanvor said: ↑

Grantland: True Knicks Detective
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That was perfect. I love Grantland.

ItsMyFault · Feb 20, 2014

http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/hbo-true-detective-poster-yellow-king-clue-195650813.html

Behad · Feb 21, 2014

gifford1967 · Feb 21, 2014

I'm starting to believe the theory that Marty's father-in-law is involved. This explains his daughter's sexually explicit drawings, the doll scene, and her behavior as a teen and Marty's repeated comment about the solution being right under his nose. I think we'll find out that Marty killed Tuttle.

B-Bob · Feb 21, 2014

Hrock said: ↑

A lot theories online saying Marty is the Yellow King, i thought that was pretty interesting. Kind of a cop-out to me.
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Commodore · Feb 21, 2014

K mf G · Feb 21, 2014

^^ tecate > lone star

anyway, i'm ready for sunday night!

Ziggy · Feb 21, 2014

ItsMyFault said: ↑

http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/hbo-true-detective-poster-yellow-king-clue-195650813.html
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I only read like the first paragraph - up until the poster. And thought this was stupid as hell. Marketing did all the posters/billboards - probably without even watching an episode.

Scolalist · Feb 22, 2014

Could Hart and/or Cohle be the killer(s)?

I thought the Yellow King was identified as a man with scars or a serious burn on his face (meth cooking?)

The theory of transference is fun too play around with. Did Hart killing Ledoux make him become the Yellow King or Cohle looking over the statue at the end of Ep.5 make him change at that moment.

Hart's daughters sexually explicit drawings (one with a man wearing a mask) and the spiral drawing suggest sexual abuse from someone. Hart has also shown violence towards young women.

Cohle seems less likely to me. He seems to be discovering the evidence in the school for the first time based on his reactions. Plus I think he's still 100% commited to and has been investigating the murders the entire time (perhaps undercover), Hence being at a crime scene of a murder not mentioned in papers or on the news. Aside from the troubling existential philosophy I do believe he's still "keeping the bad men from the door".

Tuttle is interesting. As the inmate saying it was big people. How about a Preacher who's brothers with the governor! The creation of a task force too take over the investigation doesn't help matters. Were the murders designed too push that task force ahead?

Commodore · Feb 22, 2014

Ace posted a damn compelling theory:

http://minx.cc/?post=347366

This is not a murder cult.

It's a euthanasia cult.

I say that because the entire theme of the show is Cohle's dark philosophy of existence being hellish, and death being an escape. The solution to the deaths will therefore echo that.

The murders will not be murders-- murder is an external threat, but that's not what Cohle has been selling all season. He's been selling a philosophical menace-- the menace of existence itself.

So the "victims" come to the cult for "release."

Here's further evidence of this: Cohle says that consciousness is an evolutionary mistake. It separates man from nature. Consciousness, he says, is the source of our suffering.

He also says the way the dead bodies were staged is an important symbology -- the symbology has meaning to the one who posed the bodies.

And what is that symbology?

In death, the human bodies were turned into animals, with antlers-- they had been stripped of their sorrow-making consciousness, returned to a natural state of stupidity.

I think "Carcossa" refers to this state, this state of non-consciousness. That is what Carcossa is in this telling -- the plane of non-consciousness.

Further adding to my return-humans-to-nature proof is the fact that the three bodies have been found, so far:

1. bent over a tree, on the haunches, like a rabbit -- like an animal of the land

2. floating in the river -- like a fish in the water

3. suspended in the air between trees -- like a bird in the sky

Meanwhile, the painting found in the abandoned church wall also featured a hermaphrodite -- again with antlers. Returned to a state of non-consciousness.

I think the mixture of meth and LSD is self-induced. I think the purpose of it is to destroy the mind -- perhaps to put the victim into a coma (like Cohle's daughter was in).

And then the body is killed, it slips tranquilly from the non-consciousness of coma into the "deeper dark" of death.

So who are the five men in this cult? The best guess would be 1, Reverend Tuttle (who died), 2, Governor Tuttle, 3, the unnamed sheriff who permits the whorehouse at Spanish Lake to operate, 4, possibly the black pastor shown in episode 1 (Levy says this actor is too big for a bit role, and must have a more prominent role later), and 5, possibly the white preacher at the revival tent or Woody Harrelson's father in law.

Why did they form the cult? I think it will be revealed they all had a close connection to a child who died, and all went crazy with grief. Similar to Cohle's grief, but unlike him, they decided to do something about it. (Changed: I thought they'd be connected to Marie, the missing girl, but Comment 164 explains why I no longer think she's "missing.")

One last thing: the female victims, so far, are probably victims of molestation by family members or other trusted person. It might be this pain that drives them to the cult's horrible form of release.

Point is, the show is telegraphing pretty hard, I think, that Woody Harrelson's daughter was molested (possibly by him, but more likely by his father-in-law).

Ergo, she will likely run away from home and fall into the evil suicidal embrace of the cult, and seek her own ticket to Carcosa. The last episode will probably involve an attempt to save her from this self-chosen fate.
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Svpernaut · Feb 23, 2014

Commodore said: ↑

Ace posted a damn compelling theory:

http://minx.cc/?post=347366

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conquistador#11 · Feb 23, 2014

Commodore said: ↑

Ace posted a damn compelling theory:

http://minx.cc/?post=347366

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in the words of marty,

you guys are just obsessive. you need to keep that stuff to yourself.

can't wait for tonight! today is sunday right?

rocket river, hang in there. I too was like wtf after the first 2 episodes, as I was expecting 'breaking bad', ' the wire' and 'cheers' by the way some were hyping it. but it's legit. i'd boycott the emmys if one of these two don't win one.

LosPollosHermanos · Feb 23, 2014

The killer is revealed tonight...

K mf G · Feb 23, 2014

i just realized an hour ago rockets on at 8
as clutchfans family members we should go dark until an hour after the game is over or well in hand

J Sizzle · Feb 23, 2014

Rockets on National TV and True Detective is quite a nice night

VanityHalfBlack · Feb 23, 2014

Tonight would be episode 6, correct? I was able to DL all 5 from torrentz so I can see what all the hullabaloo was about.

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