Console Wars Thread! PS4 vs. Xbox One vs. Wii U Fight!

Killing bots doesnt count as dominating middle schoolers...post your kill stats and lets see how you did against human players.

 

LOL. Both posts were made in the same minute.

Enjoy.:grin:

 

People who bash and have never used Kinect, and/or don't know how to use Kinect just don't understand. I use voice commands 95% of the time. They are faster, more intuitive and just cool.

I can only imagine where they will take it in the next few years with both the games, and the system.

 

Well said...you could very well be correct.

For those that know, do you sacrifice more by going 60 fps than going 1080p? I would think so, but Im not very knowledgeable when it comes to this topic.

 

Doesn't it take like 6 minutes to change discs? You want to talk about speed? You're gonna lose because the PS4 has the superior hardware:

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...-test-to-decide-which-console-is-faster-video

 

There have been updates to both systems since this time.

 

What does discs have anything to do with Netflix or voice commands?

You were saying that you can push a few buttons before I can say "Go to Netflix".

I havent once mentioned anything regarding discs or changing games.

 

I literally can't even imagine it, and I don't think anyone else can either. That's the problem.

The Kinect has been around for years. Yes, the XBO version is higher resolution, upgraded version. This is true. But that doesn't do much to fundamentally change its applicability to gaming.

Voice commands to go watch Netflix? Sure, that's cool. Head-tilting? Sure, cool.

But is it game-changing? Paradigm-shifting? "The future"? Nope. Not seeing it. I've never seen one thing that gave me reason to think that.

 

Supporting it isn't really using it. It is mostly using the microphone, which isn't exactly groundbreaking.

 

i love how you say people don't understand kinect, then mention voice control as a killer feature of kinect.

Newsflash, you don't need a kinect for voice control. You need a microphone.

 

No one developed for it because they had no idea if A. those who bought the Kinect even had it plugged in and B. not every Xbox 360 sold had a Kinect.

That is the very reason Microsoft made it bundled with the Xbox One. To remove that doubt from the developers.

You can see how they are using Kinect now. Ryse, Battlefield and Dead Rising have some cool Kinect features that add to immersion - and those were added after the fact, at the last moment. Developers who have a few years to harness the power and SDK of the Kinect are going to do some great things in games. Mark it.

Also, I would never want to go back to a console without Kinect and an HDMI input again. I say "Xbox, watch HBO" and I'm watching HBO. I say, "Xbox, play music" and I'm listening to music, and games, and on and on. Instant switching and snapping apps in the process.

Hell, I change from Netflix to Music, the TV all the time when I'm up and about the house - like cooking, grilling, doing dishes, cleaning, etc. Kinect is amazing, if you use it. Also, as Bing/Cortana search becomes more and more a decision engine - the things that will do alone are going to be amazing.

 

It depends on the engine, and the way the developers are leveraging the hardware.

With resolution, I think you tend to more or less be limited by just a few things. But with framerate, there are a number of things that could be limiting you to 30 FPS, including the CPU. You can have a Titan in these consoles, but if the CPU can't keep up with its tasks, it will be stuck at 30 FPS (though it might be able to support 1440p or something).

Why did developers support things like the rumble pack and the DualShock controller then? Not to mention MS themselves could always fund development to take advantage of it (I think Sony and Nintendo probably did that). And once they lead the way, others could follow. As it is, MS has put it in every system, and it really doesn't seem like developers care.

Why did developers not really use the motion control in the PS3's controller, even though they knew it was in every device?

 

LOL!

Ask and you shall receive. I played another game to post my stats. I went 27-5.



I found my stats page:


3.4 KDR in 2 games.

 

How long is it now?

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know watching Netflix was a more relevant discussion than changing video games in a video game thread. Proceed.

I'm sure the voice feature has a lot of downside you fail to mention that get annoying.

 

Yeah, because I am going to wear a headset wherever I go? The Kinect also has a extremely powerful camera, have you ever used Xbox Fitness? I do, and it keeps my pulse - to me, that's amazing tech. Not to mention it has the strongest IR blasters ever put in a consumer device, they will literally bounce off of three walls and still get to where they need to go. The technology behind the Kinect is ground-breaking, and seeing how indie devs have used the SDK in the past is proof of that. Game developers simply need to think outside the box. Either way, there is an entire ecosystem of apps that you can work with as well.

I've played with my nephew online, with Skype snapped to the side as we played CoD. To me, that's pretty great. Some people may think it is cheesy but I got to spend time with my nephew and shoot the ****.

Did you really just compare rumble packs to Kinect? I'm not sure if you know this or not, but adding vibrate when you shoot doesn't take a lot of programming. To unleash the full potential of the Kinect, takes some effort. Microsoft has shown this, again with Xbox Fitness.

Motion controllers were terrible, and no one wanted to wave a controller around - and this is why Wii's cuteness soon wears off. The Kinect can be used for countless different things, it isn't a gimmick - it can be, but that just means the devs aren't working hard enough.

 

That's your killer app? That's your groundbreaking example? Really?

Okay then. I guess we just have fundamentally different definitions of "groundbreaking."

...and streaming video? Really? You are not strengthening your position here.

First of all, to me they really don't add to immersion.

Almost all games, excluding niche-y games like Fitness and Wii Sports clones, use a controller as the primary method of input. If the controller always remains an essential, central part of controlling the game, then features like the Kinect BF4 lean actually decrease immersion. Because in order to do one particular action, you must do a particular "real-life," physical motion... but once that novelty part is done, all you've done is call more attention to the fact that 99% of the game uses the controller, just like every other game. You've now broken the immersion for me by calling attention to the fact that I have to switch back to the controller as my method of input.

The Kinect isn't immersive. THIS is immersive, because your method of input remains consistent:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/k7n5kRRHDpw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Second point, I still haven't seen any ideas for using the Kinect as a primary control method that aren't fundamentally limited by the input lag inherent in a motion-sensing system that doesn't have something for the camera to receive input from (like... a Wiimote). I'm not even asking for games as examples at this point! I'm asking for even compelling ideas of how the Kinect would achieve killer app status in gaming.

I'm not saying that if I can't think of something, there's never going to be anything. But I AM saying that for as long as the original Kinect was on the market, I would've expected there to be at least some compelling ideas being tossed around. I've heard none, other than the first-person fighting game that is unplayable due to the input lag. Point me at something else to get excited about. Anything. Seriously.