Why do people keep saying this ****? You wanna know how Seattle did it? The found guys like Richard Sherman in the 5th round of the draft (pro-bowler best CB in the league), they had a guy in Browner who was a solid corner but when he was lost he was replaced by a more than worthy replacement in Walter Thurmond III a 3rd round pick. They signed Cliff Avril (pro bowl DE) as a FA to become their best rusher to boo-coo amount of money they also signed Michael Bennett to shore up their pass rush. Their highest pick on the defensive line was Bruce Irvin who was selected 11th overall (I believe) and how much of an impact did he truly have on that defense? Hell the Super Bowl MVP LB was a a 7th round pick. A SEVENTH ROUND PICK FOR PETE'S SAKE!!! You guys act like this one pick will automatically transform our defense into a bonafide elite top 5 the way the Niners and Seahawks became. Again this wasn't done over night. Also, once again, it's not as easy as you all make it seem to draft a "game managing" QB the way they have. Not to mention the questions we ourselves have at RB, Foster is coming off back surgery and Tate is as good as gone. Your formula is easier said than done, that's what ya'll don't understand.
Flash, the entire purpose of my first post in response of yours was agreeing with you about EJ... And I think Thad is a darn good quarterback and he accomplished a lot at Duke. He was a quarterback that did more with less. And he was learning on the fly more so than EJ because he was just thrown out there at the spur of the moment which is impressive. And feel free to check Brady's numbers in the regular season against Miami. And like I said, EJ probably would have been there for Buffalo in the 2nd or 3rd round if Buffalo would have waited. The 6 quarterbacks I named aren't the only starting quarterbacks in the NFL (and I also named three more possible starters as well so that makes 9) drafted outside the 1st round. Those are just the ones that were drafted outside the 1st round in the past 3-4 years. Which shows the trend. I also said in the post that one of Blake, Teddy, and Johnny may fall to the 2nd like Geno did so if the Texans like all 3 they can possibly still land one of them in the 2nd. And Jimmy Garoppolo, Smith, and Zach may be just as good for a team as Blake, Teddy, and Johnny. So that trend is going to more than likely continue this year and definitely next year as well.
This is my ultimate, handing the jags a supremely accurate, field general type who would carve us up like pieces ofturkey. Bridgewater has a really high football iq, elite accuracy, very accurate on the run and poised.
Out of all those starting QBs drafted past the 1st round there's a few that are truly capable of carrying their team threw the playoffs or at least to a playoff win. I'd put it at: Drew Brees Russell Wilson Colin Kaepernick Tom Brady That's it, Brady is the ultimate diamond in the rough QB out of these type and he went from a game manager within his first few years into an elite, shows how much you can grow from your first day as a rookie to 10 years in the league. That besides the point. And yes you still have guys like Andy Dalton (still hasn't gotten his team a playoff win) and Nick Foles who just made it to the playoffs in his first year. Basically you have 2 QBs of those 6 that just recently came out (your trend) and have been successful in the playoffs. Still too early to tell for Foles, but its' moving in the right direction.
Kaepernick and Russell don't carry teams like Brees and Brady. That's jus my opinion and I won't debate you on it... As of now, Matt Ryan isn't much different than Dalton. His playoff numbers are pathetic (but could get better). Sam Bradford, Jay Cutler, Matt Stafford have pretty much done nothing. Not to mention other 1st round picks out there like Locker, Pounder, Gabbert, Weeden, Freeman that haven't done much as well. In the past 9 years name the 1st round pick quarterbacks that consistently get their teams and or help get their teams deep into the playoffs besides Flacco. And as of now as much as I like him _ Andrew Luck is an interception machine and I'm not worried about him in this division.
Matt Ryan has gotten his team to the NFC Championship game, Andy Dalton... not so much. Ryan's latest playoff numbers have improved from his first few appearances. Jay Culter has been a top 10 QB as well as Stafford. Remember it's still a team game, so if these guys are putting up 25 ppg yet giving up 30 ppg its going to be much harder to overcome those pathetic defenses. The Bears defense has gone into free fall since Urlacher retired, along with Briggs and Tillman getting injured for a majority of the season. Mannings both of them. Ben Rothelisberger till just recently. Aaron Rodgers has done it with the Packers. Carson Palmer was one of those guys with the Bengals. Matt Hasselbeck was another if you go earlier in the past decade. Mark Sanchez and Rex Grossman could be considered by those who ignore that their defense's carried them that far. You said not to mention Flacco but he's another. Again their have been plenty, but now name the list of past QBs that consistently taken their teams deep into the playoffs, besides Drew Brees and Tom Brady.
I'm getting confused. Are people just being completely idiotic and irrational on purpose? The football forum has become like D&D. I don't know how but a handful of idiots managed to completely run it into the ground
No surprise: CollegeFootball 24/7 @NFL_CFB Follow Mayock: Teddy Bridgewater is most NFL-ready QB in the draft. 1:39 PM - 18 Feb 2014
We have different point of views of what success is. Especially when Cutler, Stafford, and Palmer only have 4 playoff appearances with one playoff victory between the 3 of them... I'll just leave it at this... Since the start of the new millennium _ Payton, Eli, Big Ben, Rodgers, and Flacco have 7 super bowl wins between them and they were drafted in the 1st round. Steve McNair, Donovan McNabb, and Kerry Collins made it to the super bowl so that's 8 teams (9 if you count Payton making it with 2 different teams) that at least made it to the super bowl with quaterbacks drafted in the 1st. Also since the start of the new millennium Kurt Warner, Trent Dilfer, Tom Brady, Brad Johnson, Drew Brees and Russell Wilson have 8 super bowl rings between them and they weren't drafted in the 1st round. Rich Gannon, Jake Delhomme, Kaepernick, Matt Hasselbeck made it to the super bowl so that's 10 teams (11 if you count Warner twice) that made it to the super bowl with quarterbacks not drafted in the 1st round. Championships are the ultimate accomplishment of a team and in this day and age the percentages say you don't need a 1st round quarterback to compete for and or win a championship.
Chronicle actually posted a article about bridgewater today..Whoa! http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexan...iel-unsteady-bortles-undeveloped-mayock-says/
He knows that Manziel = page clicks & Teddy doesn't. Same reason local radio is off their rocker for him, IMO.
bigtex and bobbythegreat seem to think if they repeat "russell wilson is a game manager" over and over it will eventually come true. very desperate attempt to force feed their agenda to those who do not agree with their flawed logic.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/02/18/teddy-bridgewater/5591053/ BRADENTON, Fla. — bradenton, fla. Chris Weinke knows firsthand what new Houston Texans coach Bill O'Brien prizes in a franchise quarterback. Weinke, a former Heisman Trophy winner and NFL quarterback, has trained a quarterback O'Brien recruited, Michael O'Connor, when O'Brien was coaching at Penn State. Could it be that Weinke, the IMG Academy quarterback guru to Russell Wilson, Cam Newton and Ryan Tannehill, is training O'Brien's future Texans quarterback, too, in former Louisville star Teddy Bridgewater? Houston owns the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft that begins May 8. Bridgewater, who led Louisville to a 23-3 record over his final two seasons, is widely considered the most pro-ready passer among a talented 2014 crop. "No question, Teddy would fit Bill O'Brien," Weinke told USA TODAY Sports. "I know what Bill is looking for in a quarterback because he recruited my high school quarterback to Penn State before going to the NFL. Bill is looking for the total package." Which means? "Teddy has all the intangibles to be special," Weinke said. "He's similar to Russell Wilson in terms of elusiveness, sensing danger with pocket feel. His accuracy is as good as I've ever seen." With elite pocket poise and anticipation, Bridgewater completed 71% of his passes, throwing for 31 touchdowns, 3,970 yards and four interceptions for 12-1 Louisville last season. "What I like about Teddy is you see him make NFL-style throws," NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock said. "Their offense is under center. ... Coaches and scouts love that. It makes it easier to evaluate him." So will Bridgewater emerge as the top gun given three years of making full-field reads and presnap checks? Or will O'Brien, who spent five seasons with the New England Patriots working with Tom Brady, be tempted by an improvisational type of passer such as former Texas A&M star Johnny Manziel? Or perhaps strong-armed Blake Bortles from Central Florida will win over O'Brien. Weinke admits obvious bias about Bridgewater's throwing skills, high football IQ and ability to strengthen a lean 6-3, 205-pound frame. "Teddy loves the game. He's a gym rat," he said. "He's a No.1-worthy franchise quarterback." Weinke said he tweaked Bridgewater's mechanics, engaging his legs to generate more velocity in driving deep throws downfield. "I was pretty much an arm passer," Bridgewater says. "Chris helped tremendously improving my technique." Bridgewater likely will wait until the last minute before deciding with agent Kennard McGuire whether to throw during Sunday's quarterback drills at the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis. "When the time comes, we're going to make that decision," Bridgewater said. "I'm willing to outwork anyone to prove why I should be that top guy." HIS INSPIRATION Bridgewater's drive and willingness to be coached came in part from his mother, Rose Murphy "I try to chase perfection as a competitor and playmaker," he said. "I consider myself an easygoing, humble guy because of life lessons learned watching my mom battle breast cancer. "That taught me to attack each day with purpose and give back because of all her sacrifices." Bridgewater, 21, has long been mature for his age. "Riding home from one of my third-grade games, I just said, 'Mom, when I make it to the NFL, I'm going to buy you a pink Cadillac Escalade with pink rims,''' Bridgewater said. Murphy marvels at her son's prescience. "The ironic part about what Teddy said about getting me a pink Cadillac truck is that pink represents breast cancer. I was diagnosed in 2007," Murphy said. "We can laugh about it now, because he could have said any other color. "I'm just so excited to watch him living his dream. If the pink Escalade comes along, great. It's a joy to still be winning the battle and see the man Teddy is." He became that man at 14 — 11 years after his parents divorced. "I stopped playing sports, going to school," Bridgewater said. "I'd mow lawns, wash cars. I felt it was my job to take care of her." Murphy received a jolting letter from Teddy's Miami Northwestern freshman teacher. "It said, 'Teddy has been tardy.' And he'd always been a great student," Murphy said. "When I was throwing up, he'd lie on the floor with me. "I said, 'Teddy, you're not going to quit. I'll be OK. You have a special gift.' He looked at me, crying, saying, 'OK.' "He really touched me." Her youngest of four children vowed to graduate from Louisville in three years. In December, he became the first of his family to earn a degree — in sports management. He had chosen Louisville over Miami (Fla.) for the chance to start sooner. "I said, 'You're going to Louie who?'" says Murphy, a field operations specialist with Miami-Dade County public schools. "All I knew was the Kentucky Derby." CHARACTER COUNTS Shawn Watson, the former Louisville offensive coordinator and current assistant head coach at Texas, shows highlights of Bridgewater as a training tool for Longhorns quarterbacks. So who'll go No. 1 — Johnny Football or Pro-Ready Teddy? It seems a search as much about finding a franchise's conscience as its face. "I've been asked by general managers or heads of scouting, 'What trait does Teddy have that warrants him being the face of the franchise?'" Watson said. "His character enables him to realize his talent. "We're all looking for that franchise face," Watson added. "We want him to have that work ethic, character and be the example of what you want the spirit of your team to be. "Teddy is that guy."
I'm gonna keep this simple. You do your best to try to find your next Kurt Warner at the grocery store, your next Trent Dilfer who 'carried' a Ravens team on his back to a Super Bowl, or the next Kerry Collins who hasn't won **** since that same SB. I'll take my viable #1 pick QB that will progress and become everything he can possibly be. Whether it be the next Aaron rRodgers or the next Alexs Smith, I know he'll put in the hard work to become what he's destined to be. The ultimate accomplishment is finding the BPA with each pick you have will also considering value of the pick. I know who will come out as the #1 pick this draft. I don't think you do.
