boston may take asik may not. It will be up to morey to find 3rd team to help facilitate the deal by getting another 1st for either jones/asik/dmo from another team to give to boston. Boston probably is open to any 2 player combo of asik/bev/jones/dmo as long as they are getting two 1st round picks. If parsons is included danny is probably ok with just taking 1st round pick + asik.
This and think about anytime a good Real Estate agent sells a house. The first offer from the Buyers Agent is something crazy like knock off 50K off the price of the house, no closing costs, paint the house pink, and cover the house in granite. Then the Sellers agent... tells his client.... Dont NOT RESPOND.... you come back with an offer even if its just lowering the price a small amount at first because... YOU WANT THEM TO PLAY BALL with you, and they will come up eventually if you keep them bidding long enough. Eventually that house you wanted covered in Granite only gets the Kitchen upgrade, closing costs, and 5K knocked off the asking price. But the longer you can keep the buyer and the seller in negotiations, the better the deal is in the end for both parties.
It has been discussed on some level (Rondo to Houston) Do I feel confident it will happen? Right now I think the Rockets do not have the strongest offer for Boston... IF they cave in to give Parsons at the deadline... I put the Rockets as the front runner. Ainge feels Parsons could LEAD the Celtics team and be a vocal leader on and off the floor for a group of young guys. Aingle and Morey are both doing their jobs... That is to discuss everything they can. Does that mean it is going to happen? Of course not. But does that mean the Rockets GM is busting his butt and looking at EVERY possibility? YES.
DD, I hope you're actually right on this one. Two starters for one starter. Makes sense on the surface. Let's see what comes out of this, even if it's nixed, we sometimes find out what was on the table thru Clutch.
Rondo has missed about 88 games with his knee. Before that injury, he had missed 27 games in 3 1/2 seasons. He missed 1 playoff appearance. As for Yao, it depends on which final 4 years you go by. He only played 5 of 164 games his last 2 years. Even if you don't count those years, 3 of Yao's last 4 years were ended by injury.
Any idea who else may be involved? Obviously, either Lin or Asik would be needed to make salaries work. Also, trading Parsons would create a huge hole at SF... and the Rockets obviously would need a backup center as well if it's Asik that gets traded. Any clue on how the Rockets would want to address this? Anyway, thanks for all the info.
Asik + Lin isn't fair for Rondo. When you trade a star, you want either lottery picks/multiple picks along with young talent, along with cap space. Some combination of the sort. Boston isn't trading a superstar pg for Asik and Lin, who they might not even resign and have nothing to show for trading Rondo down the road.
@Cyberx Do you know specifically what Morey has put on the table as his offer? Clearly one of Asik or Lin has to go for salary purposes. Would they go to third teams for additional assets? Is it just one of them?
that trade can't happen under the current CBA unless boston added some more pieces. Houston sending out 16mil and Boston sending out 11mil
If this move happens, we need to throw whatever else is left and make a run at Millsap. Rondo or Harden and Millsap Pick n Pop would be deadly Rondo Harden Parsons (?) Millsap Dwight
at this point we should be throwing 2 1st rounders. they're going to be in the late 20s anyways, and i'd rather take non-garaunteed contracts and develop those players anyways. morey has shown the ability to find talent deep in drafts...let those guys develop. we have enough young guys, we dont need 2 20-slotted rookies the next couple years...
Morey dealt with Presti, and for all intensive purposes considering the circumstances, Presti got a good deal, and obviously Morey did too. You can debate till your blue in the face about what more Presti could have gotten (Perkin's contract off the books) but the point is, Presti got some of the most intriguing picks traded in the past 5 years (Lowry pick & Dallas pick), salary help with a few contracts, and some very intriguing young talent. That's one of the better hauls any GM has gotten in the past few years give the circumstances. Good GM's can very well trade with each other, but they need to be operating on mutual ground for having a very clear understanding of the other teams needs. The only reason why Ainge/Hinkie and Morey couldn't really come to a deal for Asik was because the Celtics and 76er's really didn't "Need" Asik... that was a clear cut givaway and they were the only two GM's smart enough to be opportunistic enough to at least get involved in the trade talks.... there was no "Need" on their behalf to get a deal done.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/griffbl01.html You watch too many kia commercials and dunk contests. Neither has anything to do with playoff basketball. I've been watching Blake since he was at OU where even Dexter Pittman handled him. Dexter was a 2nd round pick and now he's in the D League with the Toros. That guy outplayed him. Last year he was averaging 18 and 8 in the regular season. Then the big bad playoffs start and he's rockin' it at 13.2 and 5.5. He can't even get 6 rebounds a game and you want to tell me his game cannot be stopped by several guys on this team? Beautiful insult, though. Please give me more without backing it up. Blake Griffin is soft. Greg Smith can shut him down in a playoff scenario.
See this is the type of stuff that makes Clutchfans so hilarious. Getting Rondo and Millsap, while keeping Parsons? LOLOLOLOL throwing realism to the wind...
Ainge is negotiating from a position of strength. Morey is negotiating from a position of strength. If some weak team will offer a favorable First round pick for either Asik or Lin, this trade for Rondo can happen. I doubt it, though, because there are too many sellers and not enough buyers.
