Been saying for awhile now it isn't between Teddy & Bortles/Manziel. It's between Teddy & Clowney. Could I be wrong? Of course. I remember 2006. But I'll be stunned if they take anyone other than those two, barring a trade down.
Yeah that's why he was being graded as a second round talent and went 15th overall last year, to a team that was rumored to be chasing Ryan Nassib.... Big difference here. Actually there is one similarity that they're both black, is that what you were getting at?
No, EJ Manuel was first on Mayock's QB rankings last year.....Teddy is this year. Why would race have anything to do with it?
Yes he was in an entirely different draft class, with the likes of Geno Smith and Matt Barkley. My point is even though he was ranked first overall on Mayock's QB rankings doesn't mean he's being considered as the #1 overall pick, him being EJ Manuel. He was projected as a 2nd to 3rd rounder. I'm trying to make a correlation between the two and that's all I found besides them being ranked #1 overall this year and last respectively. That's like saying Andrew Luck was rated first on Mayock's QB rankings the year before and this past year it was EJ Manuel.... BIIIIIG difference.
Maziel . Bortles and even Carr would be ranked ahead of EJ Manuel if he was in this draft.. Teddy is ranked higher on a better QB draft
I wasn't suggesting that Bridgewater was worth the first pick in the draft either, just that he's the best QB in this draft. Teddy Bridgewater might not even be worth a top 10 pick if they were strictly going by BPA, but he's the best QB, much like EJ Manuel last year. Manuel wasn't a very good QB prospect, but he was the best of a bad class, Bridgewater is the best of a class without top tier talent.
I believe so, yes: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...says-he-shouldve-hit-80-percent-of-his-passes Seems like he would have announced by now that he wasn't if that's the case. Almost all of the other top rated guys have.
Bridgewater would have actually been the first pick in last year's draft, I'm sure the Chiefs would have taken him over Eric Fisher. Either way you're going by strictly numbers and ratings based on their college careers, this as entirely different game where some QBs translate and others don't. You keep saying without top tier talent as you attempting to make it as knock on Bridgewater. He may not be an Andrew Luck or even a Robert Griffin III but those are once in a lifetime QBs, hence the once in a lifetime tags. Just because you're not a top tier prospect doesn't mean you can't succeed in the league. Ask guys like Ben Rothelisberger, Joe Flacco, and Aaron Rodgers. Some people will pass on you but if you fall to the right team and develop well you still have a chance to be a successful QB in the league. Just because you think Bridgewater doesn't have what it takes doesn't mean he doesn't. Just like you thinking Clowney will be this monster DE coming out doesn't mean he will, they still have to develop into that and most of the headcases that come out don't.
They might have, they might have not, hard to tell. Also, maybe they don't make the playoffs this year if they went that route. I'm not "knocking" Bridgewater, I'm just not going to call him something he's not. He could turn out to be a decent QB, but he has very little to no chance at becoming one of the top QB's in the league. IMO that means he shouldn't be picked with the first selection in the draft. Also, it's not like I'm the only person that thinks there isn't any QB in the draft worth a top 10 pick, I think you'll be hearing a lot more of that as the draft gets nearer. This is a QB class full of 80's but there aren't any 90's.
How can you assume that? What makes you think he wont be a succesfull QB? Because he didnt face elite competition? Are you really baseing it on that? What is it that you think makes him not elite?
Yes all those people have 0% input on what a NFL team evaluates these players at, that's again just their opinion. You guy's (the doubters) are the ones that keep comparing him to the Lucks, Mannings, and Elways of the world not us. Also just because you're an 80 now doesn't mean that if you work hard to improve your craft and gain experience you're going to always stay an 80 and never become a 90. You act like once he gets drafted that's it, he's met his goal and gets fat and satisfied like Jamarcus Russell did. Obviously that's not in his mental makeup, the only reason he considered quitting football was cause his mother was possibly dying, which would be a valid reason. Now you compare that to guys like Clowney who admittedly took plays off and is constantly in the media for negatives then that makes a world of difference whether you consider that guy as #1 pick worthy. Not by no means is a safe pick that's hella risky.
There is no comparison between Bridgewater and Clowney. Clowney is the best player in the draft and a generational type prospect at his position and Bridgewater is simply the best there is this year. When you get to choose between Carr and Peppers, you don't take Carr.
Yeah. Both are the best QB in a class without top talent and a generational defensive talent. We made the wrong choice then, hopefully we don't make that mistake this time.
I honestly don't want to indulge in that foolishness so i'm going to let that go and let some one else entertain.
The funny thing about EJ Manual... Thad Lewis is probably the best quarterback on Buffalo's roster. Who Bridgewater reminds me of. Buffalo spent $100 million on Mario and had a darn good draft besides reaching for EJ. Has two very good running backs and a good receiving core and Buffalo goes 4-6 with EJ (who missed 6 games with an injury) and went 2-2 with Thad. And went 6-10 overall. EJ probably would have been there for Buffalo in the 2nd or 3rd round. Especially when an actual first round graded QB like Geno fell to the 2nd and Barkley fell to the 4th. And Mike Glennon is probably the best of the bunch and he was drafted in the 3rd. If the Texans like Bortles, Teddy, and Johnny and feel either one can be good quarterbacks they can probably land one of them in the 2nd round instead of targeting one in the 1st round and could possibly have their choice between 2 of them. It's starting to become a trend that quarterbacks can be found in later rounds. Take Thad Lewis for example. Considering he was called up from the practice squad, Buffalo was better with him on the field than with EJ.
Why? Cause ESPN said so? A few highlight plays don't make you a once in a generational type player. That's why EVERYONE was raving about him and automatically proclaimed him as the #1 pick this draft. Everyone here is just riding their coattails. We saw what both did this past season and how they both conducted each other throughout. One was a professional who willed his team to every win but one. The other played coy with coaches and chose when to play and when not to play. Also just because you decide he is like David Carr doesn't mean he is David Carr, your mindset is already set to that and I know there's nothing I can say to change it but if you take your BSPN goggles off you'll see that the better player/prospect isn't Clowney.
