Stephen A. Smith: "Heard some news about some potential deal involving Jeremy Lin"

what if it is Lin, Asik Dmo and Parsons ...for Melo

 

I initially agreed with your point of view but what I find curious is that media outlets are reporting that the Knicks have approached Houston with this idea. I don't the Knicks would do this without getting a sign off from Melo. Dolan is talking to Melo all the time. This is looking like it will be the first year that Melo fails to meet the playoffs in a very long time (if ever?). His move against Lin in 2011 was all business, not personal. He was freaked out by the brand competition and had some doubts as to whether the kid was good enough to be elite. He is less threatened by him now and probably more appreciative of his game and the role he could play on that team. He also probably now recognizes that he made a mistake in pushing for a veteran heavy team and not giving young guys enough of a chance to grow. Melo is a realist and probably understands the impact of the new CBA a lot better now and recognizes that Lin is actually very good value in this league.

 

This would only happen if the Rox and Knicks swapped front offices......

I'm not sure if Morey would do the deal with Parsons out of the equation..... I just think Melo is the wrong type of player for us.

 

The knicks do not care about salary especially if it doesn't effect their cap. The only reason they didn't match Lin's offer the first time was because it was going to cost 40+ million next year.

 

I think Morey has a different endgame than what we've been saying so far. He always thinks two steps ahead of me, anyway, so I'm going to try to put myself in his shoes.

He wants that 3rd star, and one he's thinking about might be traded either this year or next - Kevin Love. I think Morey loves him because he can stretch the floor, rebounds very well, and can play the five.

If Morey does love Love, I think he knows that Love will be traded before he hits free agency. And to trade for Love, then you need a large expiring contract. The problem is, a small market team like Minnesota can't handle the balloom payment of Lin or Asik, and very few other teams would be able to handle that. In addition, the Rockets can't send much cash back because of the new CBA rules (and #Bewell's trade) saying we can only send $3mil per year, and Minny couldn't afford to eat the rest of those salaries.

So Morey knows he needs a large expiring to package for Love, and I think he knows that even if Minny didn't want Chandler, he could be flipped for another asset. Chandler isn't dead weight, he's a valuable expiring that can bring back a pick or two. So Morey values him more highly as a trade asset than Lin or Asik, because of this.

So if it's Love, then Morey can package an expiring Chandler, TJones, and a pick for Love and some other stuff. Then Minny can flip Chandler for even more.

So that's what I'm thinking. The other upside Morey may be thinking about is that Llull may be ready to come over, but he won't because of Lin. So if Morey can get Llull over here as a result of the trade, even better.

And if the Kevin Love trade goes down over the summer, and they aren't asking for Parsons as part of the deal, we get to keep Parsons and can go above the cap to do it because we got Love in a trade.

Lineup next year could be:

PG - Llull/Bev
SG - Harden/ FA?
SF - Parsons
PF - K Love, DMo
C - Howard

and some other parts, Canaan, Covington, etc. But that is a solid 8 man rotation right there.

Or I could be out of my mind, and Morey isn't thinking this at all.

 

The only thing I really disagree with is Asik. He clearly does not want to be here it remains to be seen, as he gets back into game shape if he will just man up and play his game. Chandler would want to be here and he is a great big man to have especially coming off the bench, he is something the Rockets really need right now, other than that I agree.

 

I always forget what their cap numbers will be because of the poison pill contract. But if you think about it, a trade for Asik + Lin + draft picks for Melo makes all the sense in the world for the Knicks and somewhat for the Rox (though I despise Melo). Asik + Lin's contract should get pretty close to Melo's. Both contracts come off after next year and both can immediately move to the starting lineup for the Knicks.

Of course, Melo's has GOT TO agree to an extension before the trade goes through or it just wont work for us. I hate the guy, but I gotta admit, a Harden, Melo, Howard combo would be lights out if they can ever mesh Harden and Melo's games together

 

Knicks have painted themselves into a corner. Melo saying that he wants to win a ring now and he can't wait to enter free agency means that they HAVE to make a trade now in order to improve the team or they have to trade him. Since the league knows that the Knicks have to trade Melo they won't be giving equal value for him. All of the teams that have the picks to give NY that they would want Melo won't want to go to and he won't sign an extension. So it is conceivable to think that we can put together a package without Parsons to get Melo. If the Knicks trust Melo and still don't find another star this summer they are screwed because he will leave.

 

2-17-14 @ESPNmarcstein

"Knicks' focus leading into Thursday trade deadline is upgrading at point guard. And word is a new name intrigues them: Atlanta's Jeff Teague"

"Also: Teague not only must approve any trade but also owns long-term deal that slices into Knicks' projected flexibility for summer of 2015"

"But Knicks said to be investigating all PG options since they're convinced top target Kyle Lowry is NOT available between now and Thursday"

 

i wouldn't mind melo for parsons asik and lin on paper.

just on the court i really don't know how that would work with two ball hogs (melo and harden)

so in the end i don't think it would be a good idea

 

then i see this

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/2/16/5416486/nba-trade-rumors-2014

i knew i remember him saying he's going to retire a knick. so i don't know why this melo talk has been anywhere recently anyway.

 

Not if it costs parsons no no no

 

Lin to Knicks makes no sense on so many levels, Nets maybe, but not the Knicks... unless its a trade for Melo or something

 

Carmelo Anthony said that he wants to become a free agent in order to attract other players. Does that make sense to you? He also said that he doesn't just want to be good enough to win one playoff series he wants to win rings, New YorK can't do either. He is not staying, staying in NY would be career suicide and the Knicks not trading him this week would be the stupidest thing any team has done in awhile, they need to let go and start over.

 

Melos not staying in NY. Knicks should move him

 

Rockets get: Luol Deng, cap filller from NY (peace, udrih, aldrich)
Cavs get: Omer Asik, Raymond Felton, D. Motiejunas
Knicks get: Jeremy Lin

 

Could you imagine how bad the Rockets D would be if we actually got Melo?

 

But doesn't that fit Moreyball?
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Daryl Morey: I want Beverly at the point, Aaron off the bench for him, Tjones on the bench, Melo at the three, and anyone but Casspi first off the bench.

Kevin McHale: You want Tjones on the bench?

Daryl Morey: That's right. So you can play Melo.

Kevin McHale: Tjones is not only the best power forward on the roster, he's the only power forward on the roster, after you traded the rest to get Melo.

Daryl Morey: Listen to me, Melo jacks more 3's than Tjones. In fact, twenty percent more.

Kevin McHale: And his defense?

Daryl Morey: His defense does not matter.

Kevin McHale: I've heard enough of this.

Daryl Morey: Have you?

Kevin McHale: And I, uh... I disagree with you, plain and simple. And moreover, I'm playing my team in a way that I can explain in job interviews next winter.

 

I don't know how much their offense would improve to compensate for the defensive decline. Doesn't Melo need the ball to be effective just like Harden?