[Chron] Don't rule out a trade despite Rockets' recent run

Covington is a rookie. A ROOKIE. NBA players at either the 3 or 4 would just take him to the wood shed and beat the living crap out of him. And you know the refs would help, because he is an undrafted rookie.

 

It wouldn't be any worse than what Garcia has done for us this year.

 

shooting 3s is not rondos problem that is jones problem to make the offense work. Like I posted before Tony Parker is not a good 3 point shooter either, "where has that got Parker" ? rondo is a Parker but with better defense. I will counter the GOOD TEAM argument by saying guess lebron couldn't get the ring until he had to get the 3 big 3 going so we should count his rings ? Guess we shouldn't read into Parker's accomplishments since he plays with Duncan & Manu ?

 

1) We would still have perimeter related defense woes because Rondo is only a slight upgrade over bev and he can't guard everyone, on top of that we wouldn't have any depth at the 4 or 5 so our defensive woes will also be at the rim. - Check

2) He'd hurt our half court offense because he shoots like a drunk 8th grader so no one in the league would guard him on the perimeter leading to easy double teams on Howard and clogged lanes - Check

3) Rondo wouldn't be reliable when it comes to shooting the ball, which is what we'd need him for - Check

4)Are you suggesting that Rondo would "toughen" up all of the other players or that his "toughness" would take up all the slack for the entire team? Also, we do have this one pretty tough kid who used to play in Russia through the tear gas and the waves of batteries being thrown on the court....but I guess he's not tough.

 

Several things wrong here.

1) Shooting ANYTHING further than a few feet from the rim is "Rondo's problem"
2)Tony Parker is the greatest 3 point shooter in the world compared to Rondo
3) The Rockets and the Spurs don't run the same system
4)Being on an NBA championship team isn't an accomplishment to begin with, it's a coincidence more than anything. It means you happened to be on the best team/winning team, nothing more.

 

1)How do I put you on my ignore list? You do realize that Beverley is a poor team defender.

2)Didn't stop the Celtics

3)Shooting the ball is one aspect of the game. Rondo adds much more than that.

4)The toughness from a position of power is more instrumental than a guy you might consider the 5th or 6th best player on the team. Our star players lack that veteran toughness that I feel is needed. Dwight, as amazing as he is, still thinks its recess when he jumps on the court.

 

1) Go to "User CP" at the top of the page then click on "Edit Igore List" and put my name in. I think we'd both be grateful if you did so.

2)This might blow your mind but the Celtics several years ago isn't the Rockets today.

3)Shooting the ball is a requirement of a PG on the Rockets, if you can't do that it doesn't matter what else you can do unless you are so good you lead to the Rockets completely changing their team and trading away numerous guys to make it work.

4)Ah, so "toughness" at the starting PG spot would mean more if it was toughness from a guy at that spot who didn't fit with what the team was trying to do? Gotcha.

 

Empty stats. Easy to knock down shots with when defenders are sagging a couple of feet off you.

This is a golden era for PG's. I really don't get the obsession with Rondo on this board.

 

1) ok yes I'll agree Bevs not the best defender but I like his attitude whereas rondo is notoriously a poison in the locker room.

2) uhhhm, on the championship run, rondo didn't even start/ play significant minutes. Eddie House got the nod lol

3)like what exactly? Ball dominance... Like we need that lol

4) rondo tough? Uhm he's a little prick that can't even succeed in the talentless eastern conference. Bev is much "tougher" than rondo, plus he can actually make a layup. Don't even get me started comparing lin to rondo. The boy would take his cookies.

 

There are some real clueless posters on this board. Rondo is a poor 3 point shooter and FT shooter, but that is the only knock on him. He is elite in every other aspect of the game. The best defender, rebounder, and passer(tied with CP3), in the league at the 1 position. The fact that he has become respectable at the mid range shot makes him, a no brainer if he is offered. He's good enough at everything else that you can work around his deficiencies. He's that good.

 

I would be cool with Rondo,but we need a 4 who can shoot if he joins us and Jones does not fit the bill.

 

Anyone who thinks Rajon Rondo is a ball stopper or is ball dominant needs to watch some basketball games. He played with 3 hall of famers and got them all their touches. He's the the opposite of a ball stopper.

 

Good bball knowledge bro ! this is what I been trying to explain to people, rondo is the perfect fit if we have a pick & pop big shooter or a stretch 4.

If rondo and jones start together I'm not saying it will be bad, but that can cause a few problems.

 

So he's the "perfect fit" if we change the team to fit him? I'm not sure "perfect fit" means what you think it means.

 

Jury is still out on jones in a playoff series.

 

People get the sense that just because Rondo puts up large assist numbers it means he's a selfless player on offense. Sure he assists his teammates, but in order to do so the ball must be in his hands at all times. He hasn't proven to be an effective off-ball guard yet.

If we were to pair a ball-dominant guard like Rondo to solidify our back court with Harden, I can sense there would be some chemistry issues on the court. You've watched James enough to know that when he doesn't have the ball, he's camping out on the perimeter seemingly uninvolved in the offense. Between him and Jones (who can't hit a jumpshot consistently) Rondo may have trouble finding teammates for open looks, and suddenly our efficiency drops.

In Boston he had guys like Pierce, Allen and Garnett who were selfless players that would move around on offense. Ray Allen excelled at weaving through the defense to get an open look. Harden has not showed he can be that player.

Rondo, Howard, and Harden are all locker-room alpha dogs, and based on what I've seen this year Dwight has done a good job of catering to James' 'tough guy swag' persona, maybe because he knows he needs to make this work with James to get anywhere with this team. If we throw a hardened personality like Rondo into the fold in the midst of our most successful stretch of basketball, it could take a while to get that chemistry down. We'd literally have to change our entire approach to a new offense that we just implemented with Howard, an offense that just NOW is starting to come together nicely. Rondo and Harden just don't seem like a good pairing. But hey, I thought the same about James and Wade when they got off to a .500 start in 2010.

 

If Rondo comes, Harden won't have the rock most of the time. He'll have to get it inside the flow of team basketball. The ball will be with Rondo most of the time which should be the correct way of playing. I think Harden already showed that he can also be a player like Allen when he played last time in OKC. He showed already that he can play with a ball-hog like WB and KD.

 

I was against Rondo for the longest time.

After much thinking about those Celtics teams and our current team, I almost convinced myself it could work.

Pierce, while being a good spot up shooter, is an excellent one on one player, and he got PLENTY of opportunities to go to work.

While we love what Harden can do, most of us don't like that being "all we do" or run. I almost got the feel in watching James the last game that he took the Thorpe article to heart. He was "popping" and moving the ball and starting his move quickly, not holding near as much. Having the ball in an excellent passer's hands a little more would likely benefit everyone, James included.

So, I'm almost convinced we'd be OK if King Drew's prediction comes true, and then I watch the Boston/Dallas game the other night.

I realize Boston's TEAM defense leaves a lot to be desired and they don't have a rim protector, but man... Calderon was BLOWING by Rondo time and time again. I mean I was shocked at just how easily he was getting past Rondo. I'm sure he's still getting back to 100% and it's definitely easier on offense than defense upon returning, but he looked BAD. Not, OK.... BAD. (on offense he looked almost normal)

While Bev's regressed a tad in his on ball D and Lin has improved some in his - they both look much, much better than what Rondo did in that game. Granted, it's just one game.. and again, he's just coming back... so maybe it's to be expected and he'll get back his lateral movement and quickness. But, it was jumping off the screen and concerned me since this guy is rumored by some to possibly be a Rocket soon.

 

where are you KingDrew???