I know that, but the problem is still that a team has to dole out the money Asik. That's what makes his contract bad. But the Mets have shown that they will overpay for players.
Asik needs to prove he is in playing condition. Right now he can't play much more than 5 minutes without getting gassed. Hard to trade a guy who cant stay on the floor.
The 3&d is already here it's Covington. Don't know what the wait is in throwing him out there one thing is for sure he's a shooter and has the length and size to be solid defender
And if melo leaves in free agency? I doubt morey would do that deal without adding shumpert or the other guy.
I've been thinking lately about the prospect of trading for Gary Neal. Not as a "Plan A" sort of trade. More as one of many possible fallback trades. Neal represents the confluence of several factors: (1) He's a good 3-point shooter (.364 this season [although he was shooting much better when he was a rotation regular for Milwaukee]; .393 career shooter). (2) He's opening seeking a trade, and his team is generally willing to accommodate him. (3) He's overpaid ($3.25 million this season and next) but does NOT have a contract that extends beyond 2015. (4) His team (Milwaukee) has a ton of extra future draft picks but an owner who would rather not wait around to see those picks develop. So, with these factors in mind, I was wondering if a trade with the following basic structure would work for both teams: Gary Neal + [future draft pick compensation] for Donatas Motiejunas and Ronnie Brewer I'm not sure this sort of trade would greatly entice Milwaukee, as they have several young bigs already who they'd probably like to keep (Sanders, Henson, Ilyasova, Raduljca). However, I'm not sure any of those guys possesses quite the skill set that D-Mo has. Those skills, still with plenty of time left on a rookie scale contract, may still be worth something to the Bucks, especially if they're able to dump Neal's salary (which is alreaady "dead money" to Milwaukee at this point). Milwaukee has a TON of future second round picks in the next few years. I'm wondering which/how many of them it'd be willing to part with for the combined benefit of adding D-Mo and subtracting Neal. I seriously doubt that they'd part with their 2014 second rounder (likely to be #31 overall, a better pick IMO than #27-30 in the first round given the different contract structures that can be offered to that player). But they'd probably give up some of the picks owed further out in the future (many of which currently look like they'll be pretty good picks) or maybe their own. For instance, would the right to swap second rounders with Milwaukee in 2015 be enough for Houston to pull the trigger? A lot of this calculus turns on whether the Rockets deal Asik (not very likely at this point), what the Rockets do with Greg Smith (a potential restricted free agent this summer), and if the Rockets think they can't get a better FUTURE asset for their fourth/fifth big man. Of course, I really like D-Mo and am not looking to just "dump" him for nothing. But if the Rockets could add a fourth rotation guard in Neal while also collecting a future asset, while only giving up a fringe rotation player (Asik, Casspi and a healthy Smith can easily handle D-Mo's minutes), it is at least something to consider.
I like the idea of Neal. Don't think we can afford to lose Dmo without getting a PF back. But Neal would be good come playoff time if one of our scorers disappear.
Big time okc- rox trade How about this one: To okc: Garcia, brooks, casspi, Asik To Rockets: sepolusha, Perkins Okc really need playrs to space up the floor and Asik is a strong, talented big man in the paint that they desperately need. Rockets gets a true perimeter defender and a veteran backup for Howard with a ring on his finger. I reckon it's a fair trade for both teams although Presty probably afraid to talk with Moorey after he killed him with the harden deal
Here is the sort of complicated Rajon Rondo trade that is likely being discussed: Jeremy Lin and filler (Dionte Christmas) to Sacramento; Omer Asik and Brandon Bass to Phoenix; Isaiah Thomas, Donatas Motiejunas, three 2014 first round picks (two from Phoenix, one from Houston), and Emeka Okafor (expiring contract) to Boston; Rajon Rondo and Marcus Thornton (bad contract, expires after the 2014-15 season) to Houston. Sacramento gets an extremely marketable, and good, PG (Lin) in exchange for the restricted free agent-to-be (and undervalued) Thomas, and they dump the mediocre and grossly overpaid Thornton. They're happy, although is Lin really a better player than Thomas? Advanced stats say no. Phoenix gets rebounding, defense, and toughness, big time, and they only give up two non-lottery first round picks and two guys who aren't playing for them. Phoenix looks like a playoff team this season, and if/when Eric Bledsoe comes back strong, a team that can make a run, even. So they're happy. Boston gets three (!) additional first round picks in this June's loaded draft, the extremely undervalued Thomas, who Ainge happily signs to an extension, and the intriguing Motiejunas for Rondo and Bass. Ainge has Boston back in the playoffs as soon as next season if he kills it in the draft and will continue to position himself to ultimately land Kevin Love. I am projecting Love to wind up in Boston by July 2015. Why isn't anybody besides me seeing this coming from a mile away? Houston gets a massive upgrade at PG but has to absorb Thornton. The draft pick will be near the bottom of the first round, so no great loss. Houston has also freed up a roster spot, which it will presumably use to sign a veteran big man (Marcus Camby?). Do not be surprised if Boston agrees to a buyout agreement after Feb 20 with Kris Humphries, possibly as an impermissible wink-wink side deal. Humphries would be a very nice backup C for any contending team. In this scenario, we may see Robert Covington get promoted to the big leagues and handed a spot in the rotation. We may also reasonably anticipate Ronnie Brewer getting waived and the team sign TWO veteran bigs after the Feb 20 trade deadline (e.g., BOTH Humphries AND Camby). Thornton will be an expiring contract in 2014-15, so he'll be dangled with a draft pick prior to next season's trade deadline. Thornton won't touch the floor for Houston, he sucks. Revised roster The starting lineup PG Rajon Rondo (36 minutes/game) SG James Harden (36 min/g) SF Chandler Parsons (36 min/g) PF Terrence Jones (36 min/g) C Dwight Howard (36 min/g) The rest of the rotation Patrick Beverley (24 min/g) Omri Casspi (12 min/g) Robert Covington (12 min/g) Kris Humphries (12 min/g) The end of the bench Francisco Garcia Aaron Brooks Greg Smith Marcus Camby Stashed in the developmental league Isaiah Canaan Stashed on injured reserve with a made up injury Marcus Thornton
I agree if we get Rondo it's going to be complicated, but I think in your scenario the Suns get screwed. They likely want to hoard picks, not trade them (especially in this draft). I have the feeling that there will be no major trades league wide until after the draft, because everyone is probably looking to fill their holes with draft picks and there are teams still trying to tank.
Thanks for your feedback. I disagree. The two picks Phoenix would be giving up would be Indiana's pick (#28-#30 overall, most likely) and Phoenix's own pick (#23-#25 overall, most likely). We're not talking about lottery picks here. And the West is more wide open than people realize. Phoenix is a dark horse championship contender if Eric Bledsoe comes back strong, if they can significantly improve their rebounding and defense, and with some luck. That backcourt is fantastic. Their championship window has opened 2-3 years ahead of schedule. If anybody balks here, it's Boston. Is three first round picks, all in the #23-#30 range, plus Isaiah Thomas and Donatas Motiejunas really enough compensation for Rondo? I think it is, but then again, maybe Ainge is not as eager to totally start over as I think he is. I think Ainge envisions a star out of this year's draft, Kevin Love, and an assortment of 2013, 2014, and 2015 draftees starting in 2015-16. I do not think Ainge envisions Rondo on the roster in 2015-16.
These trades are similar to what morey did to free room for Howard this summer with ppat, Morris, trob being traded. Boston in : Asik rockets in : humpries "expiring" + 1st pick -use the picks we have now, + the 1st you get to move Lin this summer & sign melo. Boston in : asik + Canaan Rockets : humpries *expiring* + a.bradley "expiring & hurt for few weeks" so you get him on discount. -use picks we have now to move Lin this summer or now for a easier movable player this summer or an expiring depending what you can get back. neither one of these trades set us back this year for playoffs run but they also make us flexible for a run at melo this summer, humpries is a solid rebounder and plays decent D. More than serviceable as a backup for Howard for 10-15mins a night on a expiring contract.
Trade 1: Out: Jeremy Lin (8.3mil), Omer Asik (8.3mil), Terrance Jones (1.5Mil) + 2015 1st (Hou) In: Carmelo Anthony (21mil) Trade 2: Out: Chandler Parsons (0.9Mil), Ronnie Brewer (1.2mil), Francisco Garcia (1.2mil) In: Tony Allen (4.5mil), Nick Calathes (0.5mil) + 2014 & 2016 1st (Mem) 9 man rotation Patrick Beverley (32) / Aaron Brooks (16) Tony Allen (32) / James Harden (16) James Harden (22) / Carmelo Anthony (16) / Omri Casspi (12) Carmelo Anthony (22) / D-Mo (20) / Greg Smith (6) Dwight Howard (36) / Greg Smith (12)
Why is my trade idea between Okc and rox not being posted? Melo is the last person any true fan would like on his team
@MySportsLegion: There is some rumblings around the league about a potential Rockets/Knicks trade. Omer Asik & Jeremy Lin for Tyson Chandler & Iman Shumpert.
There has to be more to it that that. Morey wouldn't take on Chandler's HUGE contract for just Shumpert, right?
