Stephen A. Smith: "Heard some news about some potential deal involving Jeremy Lin"

And let's not forget that it's because Shumpert failed at the PG so Lin had the chance to come up from 4-level down to play as PG in the second half against the Nets and start the next 25 games in NY.

 

Stephen A usually has legit sources. I tend to trust what he says more than most other than Woj.

 

It's the fact that you would get a cheap $1.5mill wing defender also in the deal. (Shumpert) both expire on 2015 so morey wouldn't care because he's filling 2 holes, back up center + wing defender

But if it's Lin + asik for them you don't don't it because we gain another hole by losing a 6th man. ($1.5mill) Hardaway included also? then you do it by adding a pick also with Lin

 

Ooh ooh ooh, Lin+TJones for Melo, and then Asik+Canaan picks for Rondo!

I are so good GM!

 

Unless we're also moving Asik some additional help at point guard(Aaron Brooks isn't enough), I'd say keep Lin. He's been crucial to a lot of the Rockets' recent wins, particularly when Harden was out.

I do think Morey should do whatever he can to move Asik though. I don't trust him to not flake out on the team again after the trade deadline.

 

It's been clear since beginning of this year Knicks want to trade shumpert they are not shy about that at all, even Stephen A told Howard in his interview this summer off camera that's still popped up on YouTube about it, "Howard said well shump can come to Houston then"

 

I don't think Morey is too concerned about making us better this year. He is only concerned about acquiring easily tradeable assets for a third star player.

I don't think trading Morris and Patterson helped us last year, and I wouldn't be surprised if Morey made a trade this year that does the same thing.

 

I don't feel good about this; Lin has been an essential cog in our machine that's brought us up to 3rd.

Who could we get from NY that can replace his offense off the bench?

 

I think SAS is just referring to ESPN/David Thorpe's Tyson Chandler trade "idea" which has picked up steam as a trade rumor lately.

 

It's ironic how there is so much bashing of Lin around these boards, but when rumors surface that he might be traded suddenly he's an essential part of the team's success !?! (not picking on you personally, just a general observation)

 

No, that's just you LOFs arguing amongst yourselves and not realizing the other guy's just another LOF.

In this case, it's the "if the Rockets trade Lin, that's a diss to Lin" crowd of LOFs versus the, "who cares about that, any place he can start is better than Houston" LOFers.

 

We are in a different developmental stage now. Last year's goal was rebuilding and getting back to playoffs.

This year it's getting to second round or even to WC final. We need to stay at #2 or #3 seed to achieve that. And we are just starting to see the chemistry and team work, both offensive and defensive, for us to become a real contender.

Any roster change has to serve the purpose of helping the team become a championship team in the long run as DM has made it clear, and also to achieve this year's goal.

We were in pace to get #6 seed last year but the trades last year had us fall to #8, and we were forced out by Thunder in the first round.

Why rock the boat now? Let's just get the three specialist and wing defender for now and leave things to offseason after we have a chance to see how great this roster can do in the remainder of the regular season and the playoffs.

 

The difference between last year and this year is Howard. A second star was a MUST in order to contend. Morey used to say that you couldn't be chooser when you needed another star player.

Now we have 2 stars. We can be a little more picky. Morey mentioned that a 3rd star is not an absolute MUST. (tbh, I don't know if Morey was honest about this.) Assuming Morey was telling the truth, with 2 stars, there are more than one ways to build a championship team. You could surround the 2 stars with high end role players who fit well, together with good depth. So I would expect Morey to be more stingy in trading good role players just for the chance of getting a 3rd star.

 

Also, Lin is a mediocre player who's a complete bust if he doesn't put up superstar numbers.

 

Going by the join dates some of the posters saying this are pre 2012- don't know how you would classify them LOF's

 

That sounds nice in theory but it is not reality. Remember this is the team that wasted millions on Francis and Marbury. This team didn't sign Lin but then went out and got a dead man walking Kidd and Felton and then signed Prigioni the next year. They signed Novak to a 15 mil 4 year deal and JR Smith to a 24 mil deal then they accepted the cap dump named Bargnani from Toronto that will be 12 mil hit next year.

If you add Felton, JR Smith and Bargnani that's 20 mil (5 mil more) putting the Knicks are in luxury tax hell way more than Lin would. And none of them have close to the entertainment and profit value that Lin brings. Plus they have only helped the Knicks lose more. Nope, wasn't a money decision, it was a melo decision.

 

By the general crappiness of their posts alone.

I bet if CF could somehow run the stats, they would find that 95% of posts by YOF/LOF posts fall at or below the 5th percentile of quality.

I think that estimate is being very kind, conservative, and generous to YOF/LOFs.

 

Unless we are getting Hardaway Jr and Chandler then I'm not interested in anything they have.

 

Isn't it funny how that works out? Dolan also listened to Isiah Thomas when he fired Donnie Walsh. Then he listened to Melo, who as good a player Melo is never gave any good advice to the owner on what players to surround him with. On Melo's word let go of Lin without even trying to develop him and then breaks luxury signing everyone else.

 

ok I understand. So if YOU decide the post is crap according to YOUR view, then YOU are the one who can determine if they are YOF/LOF's. Thanks for letting me know.