Not sure how much Drtg and DWS are respected, but the numbers go George '13 97 / 6.3 '14 95 / 4.5 Harden '13 106 / 3.0 '14 107 / 1.5 Bold numbers indicate league leader
Cmon now, Kobe is one of the best scorers to ever play the game. That's just crazy. This man (Kobe) is 4th all time on the scoring list, PG is nowhere in that league. Hate the man all you want but he can get buckets. PG just chucks shots that he can't make. Difference is, Kobe took bad shots and drained them.
The discrepancy between winning % with/without either player is heavily Rockets. You didn't mention PF or PA.... you know, 2/3rds of that post. I wonder why.
Oh, clearly George isn't in Kobe's tier yet. He has to take and miss a hell of a lot more bad shots before he'll get there. But he has potential for sure!
Yes, and you also know what has a large discrepancy? The sample size and the strengths of teams played, but that would make too much sense to take into account right? What if I told you that when Harden was out, the only significant team the Rockets played and won against was Dallas, and that was only barely. Of course, I doubt you know that, seeing as you are the same person who thinks an injured foot does not affect your shooting.
Unfortunately both numbers are more clouded by team contributions than the offensive statistics. This is the same exact weakness of dRAPM. It takes seasons and preferably a team change to sort everything out. Defensive stats are so much more muddled than offensive stats. Realistically in today's NBA, defense is much more team oriented than offense. The terminology of defense in the NBA is dominated by terms like "tagging" and "shooting" and "switching" and "over versus under" and "shading" and "2.9". Not exactly terms that are readily identifiable in the average NBA fans mind. I need to write a post just about base definitions of NBA defensive terminology. There are a few long term bright and clear spots in the defensive debate. Iggy and Howard and James come immediately to mind. These are some of the few players who can transcend the team nature of today's NBA defenses and make a personal mark on the game. The game changers. Is George one of those few? Time will tell.
Right, since the sample size is smaller (and doesn't fit your argument), it must mean NOTHING, ZERO, ZILCH. Right Right, because Haden played against SA. Apparently you could see that from so far up your high horse.
Right... since Drtg and DWS might be skewed, it means ABSOLUTELY nothing. No logical person can make the slightest notion from it. #highhorse
But they might not be. One may be able to draw inferences from the stats. But conclusions? Probably not.
LMAO Your clouded judgment also keeps avoiding the main facts in that post. It was a direct response to some comparing offense and defense. This is the post The winning % was really just a caveat. I understand why you conveniently bypassed 2/3rds of this response. -
1) Rockets are 2-0 against a full strength San Antonio on the road with James Harden. 2) Rockets beat San Antonio barely without James Harden. Who was San Antonio missing? Leonard, Green, Splitter and Ginobli (for the 2nd half of the game). That's 3 starters, and their 6th man. Don't let facts get in your way though, keep preaching.
Conclusions can easily be made from inferences. It just doesn't suit your argument, so you deny an possibility. #highhorse
1) One of the 2-0 Rockets wins were close.. guess they don't get credit that. 2) Spurs have a BETTER road record than home. Nice try trying to throw in home/away to make your argument stronger. FAIL ____ Since SA wasn't full strength, Rockets get ZERO credit for winning. SA has been known to play everybody close (sometimes win) without Ginobili, Parker, or Duncan. You already knew that, but since you're on your high horse.
Okay you are absolutely right. Spurs losing 3 starters and their 6th man in no way affects their ability to win games. Not much point discussing with you any further when you are looking down on everyone with that high horse. I applaud your abilities to ignore facts. Takes a real strong person to ignore what's in front of you, but you don't seem to have much trouble with that.
I hope you all understand that I am just dumping a fans accumulated knowledge here. I am not trying to be judgmental or critical in any form or fashion. That being said ... Defense in the NBA is a team philosophy. Why is Indiana so much better than the Rockets at defense? Howard is arguably at least Hibbert's equal or better. Bev is no slouch and can probably hold down his defensive assignments as well as any PG in the NBA. West is only decent at defense and have you watched D-Mo recently? Parsons has all the physical tools ... Defensive philosophy. And team buy in. And commitment. NBA defense is like a ballet performance. Everyone on the floor must be at their respective positions at exactly the right moment. On P&R defense both defensive players must know in advance if they are going under or over. There can be no gaps (holes) in tags. The Pacers, through years of work, have the finest defense in the NBA. Can McHale instill a similar philosophy among the Rockets roster? Maybe. I feel sure he is trying.
I denied any possibility? Could you explain that to me? I function from a mathematical background. Conclusions are quite different than inferences in my frame of reference.
What do you consider a perimeter game? You don't think Steph Curry is at the top of the perimeter game list?
