Did Some Crown Paul George Too Soon?

You are not making an argument

basically it really comes down to PG shooting a crazy 3 point percentage for 20 games, while Harden shot a crappy one for 20 games

After that PG has been horrible at shooting, and Harden has gotten better in the past 30 games

What does it all mean. Nothing, that's what it really means. It just indicates any player can get on hot shooting streaks, but over the course of the season their eventual 3 point percentage will fall back to rise up to what their average is.

 

Harden's struggles began after he suffered from a knee contusion after the pre-season game against Memphis.

He shot 51% in the pre-season before the injury.

Is it possible that Harden's injuries are NOT the only reason he is shooting poorly? Sure. Is it a big contributor though? Absolutely.

There is a reason why Harden's 3PT shooting has been trending upwards. A player at 24 who has shown incredible 3PT% in his past 4 seasons doesn't suddenly just shoot poorly for no reason.

Now if you are still going to argue that Harden's injuries had nothing to do with his poor shooting, then I have nothing more to say other than try playing basketball with an injured foot or knee.

 

So now, Harden isn't an "incredible" 3PT shooter.

The things people say to make a point.. lol.


Anyways, both Harden and George are trending upward. Hopefully Garcia follows suit.

 

*IS an incredible

 

btw- if the bolded was 100 true, it would be impossible for any player to improve (or decline)

 

Both Harden and PG has had seasons shooting .39 from the three

now that both have taken on more offensive responsibilities, it will be hard for their percentage to realistically go much higher than that.

They may improve but it will be hardly noticeable. And btw PG's 3 point percentage only trended upwards for a month.

there are naturally gifted shooters like Ray allen and Curry, Harden and PG are a tier below them, I don't think they will ever become 3 point specialists like first two.

 

Paul is slightly better than Harden, IMO. The gap between their defense is larger than their offense.

 

Offense, however, also includes playmaking, something Harden beats out PG at as well.

 

However?

I know what offense includes.

Defense includes, well defense. Ask Ariza about Harden's defense.

 

Dude your on a rockets board arguing about PG.... Fact is he's played like garbage for 2 months fact is he has more games as a 17-20 ppg player over the last 2 years shooting low 40s than the 6 weeks at 25 ppg. I like PG but if you watch him play he's a chucker and forces way to may shots. He goes iso alot and is not good at it. 9/10 he's doing his little step back jumper.

Pacers last yr 49 wins in a garbage east

Pacers this yr 12 loses in and even worse east on a team that's been together for 3 yrs.

Now fast foward to harden over the last 2 years he's avg 25 5 and 5 on 60% true shooting ( only three players did this last yr Lebron, Durant and harden) last night as and example he had 35 point on 14 shots 3/6 on 3s and 6 assist and 6 rebounds. Harden has a complete offensive game, it's much harder to teach what harden can do. You can teach good defense to any player ( battier, artest, tony Allen) none of those guys are more athletic than harden.

Rockets last yr 45 wins youngest team last yr only one player from season before. In a stacked west.

Rockets this yr 17 loses in a stacked west. New team only harden and parsons were starters from last yr.

You can kid yourself and say PG is better than harden but the facts and talent level doesn't match up. Hardens a true franchise player that can have a top 5 offense built around him ( rockets offense top 5 both yrs he's been a rocket) he's the focal point and engineers a high powered efficient offense. What harden did last yr at 23 would shock me if PG ever even came close to sniffing a season like that. I think PG is a good young all star but in the dimming season he will be shown to be a really good 2nd bannana, he's be good as hardens Scottie Pippin. Maybe after his next contract he'll wanna come play with harden in the H.

 

You're only talking offense. Pretty silly when you responded to a post that mentioned defense. Never disputed Paul was better on O.

IND is 15-5 vs the West.. a much better % than HOU. They also humiliated us earlier this season.

Again, still only talking offense. We know why.

Refer to PG as a 2nd banana, but Harden can't be the best player on a champion. Why? defense. This can change with more effort, but the answer remains to be seen. Usually poor defenders never change. You downplay PG's defense because it's "teachable", yet Harden can't seem to "learn". He made Ariza look like MJ, Game 1 vs POR.

btw- The Rockets were 12th in O rating before Harden, James helped improve it, but let's not act like he's solo or there was a gigantic leap once he arrived. (12th to 6th)

 

Don't want to keep arguing with fellow posters.

Go Rockets!!

 

If we talked about defense only, tony Allen would be a allstar right? C'mon dude the pacers our a top 2 defense with or without PG. Indy is good at defense because of Coaching and ROY HIBBERT.

In the grand scheme of things you say hardens defense is so bad yet the rockets land at allstar one of 4 teams in top 10 in O and D. How can this be? Cause you can hide a bad defender.... Hints the 7 game win streak, you can't hide PGs bad offense. It's their to see every time he plays. That iso chucker he is. Just facts bro don't take it so personal.

 

The gap between offensive importance and defensive importance in the NBA is huge though. Tony Allen is probably close to as good at defense as Melo is at offense but only one of them will ever make an all star team.

 

Stop trolling. If you really think PG is better than Harden, head out to the Indiana boards.

Offensive success is much more valuable than defense from an individual perspective.

You can't hide bad offense, but you can certainly hide bad defense.

 

With George, you don't need to hide anything. He's good or great on both ends of the floor.

 

Dude, why do you look at things with such a narrow perspective? They have to play fewer good teams. Their schedule is much easier which means they are not as tired when they face the good teams. Whereas just our division has teams that would be in the top echelon of the Eastern Conference.

 

Harden is actually holding opposing SGs to the lowest PER, position wise on the team.

 

Ever played a sport where everything suddenly, for a short time, completely clicked for you? That is what happened to Ariza. Those seven straight threes in five minutes was an anomaly not likely to be repeated for seasons to come. By anyone in the NBA. Not Hardens fault.