Other people reaching on QB's isn't a reason to reach on a QB yourself. Let everyone take this year's Gabbert and Locker while we build up a championship defense.
Look at the Seahawks defense and their draft order. The Texans already have 4 first rounders on D. The Seahawks were hitting on their 3rd, 4th, 5th round picks. That is on Rick Smith. You undervalue the ability of a great QB who will consistently get you in the playoffs.
Love the argument, on the same note, why not look at the Patriots and Seahawks draft order, I guess that means the Texans should wait till the 3rd or even the 6th before taking a QB. Draft order means nothing, you need the talent no matter where you get it. The Seahawks built a dominant defense then plugged in a game manager, I wish to do the same.
When it comes to his weight, one thing that people don't know about Teddy or that they choose to ignore, is that he had some major oral surgey done after the 2012 season. He wasn't able to eat solid foods for an extended length of time leading up to the 2013 season. He likely would have put on weight prior to last season and came in closer to 210-215. I'd bet bet that he'll be approaching that come draft time.
26 TDs to 9 picks, 3,350 passing yds with a dominate running game, a 101.2 QB Rating, and not to mention 539 rushing yards = Game Mgr?
Only 407 pass attempts in an entire season = game manager. Yes. Pointing out that he did a really good job as a game manager doesn't change that. Being a really awesome game manager is a thing.
You look at stats but ignore how he got them. He didn't get them like Alex Smith. He mad great plays outside the pocket when needed. You tend to ignore a lot of stuff.
It doesn't really matter how he got them when he threw the ball less than any QB in the NFL. The average QB in the NFL throws about 150 more passes per year, good QB's throw about 200 more a year, great QB's throw around 250 more passes per year. There was only 3 QB's who played all 16 games that threw less than 500 passes, the other two? Kap and Geno. Until he gets a little closer to a league average workload, you can't call him anything but a game manager because his team asks less of him than any other QB in the league.
Not sure what's so funny, that is def legit insight into one of the biggest knocks on Bridgewater. But... Laugh it up, I guess.
Well it's pretty much an excuse. He came out of high school weighing 192 and is still pretty much the same weight, are you suggesting that one off-season surgery destroyed all the progress he made in his college years?
These two videos show why you don't want a guy like Manziel as your starting QB at the NFL level. Don't get me wrong, the kid is a hell of an improviser and has the ability to make a big play, but if you count how many licks he takes (not including the sacks) in the 1st half against LSU you will count at least 7 clean shots. At the NFL level there is no way you can last as a QB if you continue to punish your body this way. By the end of that game he's throwing the ball away and inaccurately just to avoid getting smashed by that defense. These are basically the two best defenses he faced this year. The videos of what Teddy did against similar competition have been posted and he was able to not only get the win but also dominate a top 10 defense that year. So everyone touting Manziel as being better than him because he can run and make big plays is asking for excitement at the price of health. At least that's my opinion. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/InyVF9Rgu0E" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/6WW5Rb8S0u0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
That's exactly what I'm saying. And I don't know were you're getting that 192 out of High School number from... From an ESPN article prior to the 2012 season: "Teddy Bridgewater arrived on the Louisville campus in January 2011 as a scrawny teenager from Miami. Well, scrawny may have been putting it kindly. At 6-foot-3 and only 179 pounds, it was readily apparent that Bridgewater would need to bulk up -- not only to survive the various rigors that come with playing quarterback, but to get himself in better position to maximize all his incredible talent. The training staff immediately put him on a weight gain plan that boosted his calorie intake. Essentially, Bridgewater had to eat more for lunch and dinner. Teddy Bridgewater was named Big East Newcomer of the Year last season.The plan served to put a few extra pounds on him as a true freshman. But Bridgewater has undergone his biggest transformation this offseason, putting on 27 pounds since the end of December. Bridgewater is now up to 218 pounds -- some 40 pounds more than when he arrived on campus."
Scout.com had him at 192 http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=4109879 Rivals had him at 185 One problem with all of these reports are that so many of them are just inaccurate, that's why the Combine is so great, it'll all be 100% accurate numbers and there won't be any more argument over how much he weighs, how tall he is, and how fast he is.
From a percentage stand point, the teams you listed got incredibly lucky for drafting the QB they did that late in the draft. Draft order means nothing? Here we go. Trolling another TB thread.
Fair enough, but it looks like that 192 was def on the high side. Regardless, the point on Teddy's weight still stands. And that point is that it's a non issue.
So the Seahawks draft well in late rounds to build a great defense and that's a good strategy, but when the Pats and Seahawks also get their QB's in a late round that's "incredibly lucky"? Got it. So long as you're consistent...
Here's my prediction: He could weigh in at 250. He could weigh in at 150. No matter what he weighs in at, it will not be enough to make the people arguing about his weight change their minds, for or against.
Well you're partially right. I'm sure those who bring up his size as a negative would be swayed if he was 250, BUT the Teddy fanatics wouldn't care if he was 120 lbs.