Then you would have said it incorrectly too. Bynum was only logging around 20 minutes per game on the championship teams and was battling to stay healthy enough to play. In the 2010 finals Bynum averaged 7 points and 5 rebounds shooting 45% while only playing 25 minutes a game. In 2009 he averaged 6 points and 4 rebounds shooting 36% while only playing 19 minutes a game.
You mean at scoring right? And let's wait 'til the playoffs, or at least Westbrook comes back to even agree on that.
That's so much random assumption. 2 games over .500 is not that impressive no matter how much you spin it. Tmac in his prime did the same thing as Kobe with arguably just as bad of a squad. Durant is putting up better individual, more efficiently than both Tmac and Kobe in their primes, it's not a huge leap to think that he achieve the same mediocre feat with Phil Jackson as a coach. Plus nothing indicates Kobe did anything special in those seasons other than scoring a whole lot of points at average efficiency. Bottom line is this, Kobe was great at what he does even though he was not as athletically gifted as say Lebron or Tmac or even Durant. His strength was his crazy work ethic and longevity that makes him better than Tmac, not rings. I will never deny Kobe was one of the most unstoppable scorers in his prime who could also pass and rebound well when he wanted to. But he is so overrated by media putting him as the top 5 greatest player of all time. Give me a break. He never really carried his team in the playoffs when he won those championship, he merely played up to his ability. What really separates him from historically volume scorers is longevity and the luck of having Phil Jackson and playing with Bynum/Shaq/Gasol so he is guaranteed rings. IMO he was no better than Duncan on the all time ladder, who had the same Longevity, more impact on defense, and won just as many rings.
Point for you Perkins is very solid player as a defender/rebounder, and ANY team in the NBA would take Sefolosha for the right price. You should be embarrassed even making that comparison No it wasn't. Stop lying to yourself. I'm sure Shawn Marion would disagree Correct, it did go 7 games. But the fact there was even 7 games makes everything you posted look even more stupid. Put Smush Parker, Kwame Brown & Brian Cook on OKC and see if they take ANYBODY to 7 games lol. Utterly ridiculous
That's extremely debatable at this stage, at least this season. KD is doing a lot more in a far tougher conference, and it doesn't help that KD completely outplayed Lebron during their 1 on 1 matchup when OKC played the Heat. Whiles Lebron might be the better overall player, Durant is certainly having the better season.
Seriously what is so lucky about playing with Bynum. The guy was never healthy enough to be a major contributor during the championship runs. People throwing in Bynum are just looking for ways to downplay Kobe's accomplishments. Say Gasol, Odom, Artest, Ariza or whoever else but don't throw in a guy that wasn't logging heavy minutes and dominating just because he is a big name.
Are you trying to Ruse me, Bynum played most of the games in the two years they won the rings. Bynum, Gasol, Odom front Court was arguable the best at the time defensively and offensively.
In a league with near zero dominant Centers. All they had to do was contain Dwight the first year. And having Gasol, Odom, and Bynum(even for 25min a game, that's over half the game) who on the Celtics can work these guys over in the post. Not to mention Kobe's horrific shooting on the biggest stage(game 7) and his team STILL carried his ass to the championship. Lol you Kobe fans must be blind. Why do you think the opposing teams scored so little against them? It's because of all the trees.
KD is the MVP this year, but I don't think one season where his numbers are better makes him the better player. It takes more than one season especially in a season where Lebron is still having a very good season.
He played about 60% of regular season games during the first title run and about 80% during the second but was coming off injury going into the playoffs both years. He never logged major minutes for an entire playoff run and he was far from 100% during either finals appearance. When it came to the playoffs Bynum was playing nowhere near an all star level in 09 or 10 and was less of a contributor than guys like Ariza, Artest and Pau. In the 11 finals games they played in those two years he scored more than 10 points once and logged more than 10 rebounds once. His fg% was also in the low 40s for those 11 games. Bynum contributed but his level of contribution could have been replaced by several other big men in the league.
Kobe was awful in game 7 but he was great in many of the other games in 2010. He is the reason they even made it to that game 7. Acting like Kobe was a sidekick to Bynum when Bynum was far from dominate at any point in time during the finals is an insult.
I didn't say Kobe was Bynum's sidekick. However I might say the combo of Gasol/Bynum(even with limited min)/Odom is just as much of a reason why they won those titles as Kobe alone was.
Tmac? Stay on topic kid. That Laker team was TRASH, and everybody who has an unbias opinion knows this. Even Phil couldn't even help a team with Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, Brian Cook & Stanislav Medvedenko. As a matter of fact, I'd be willing to bet that KD or LBJ will NEVER play on a team this bad for the remainder of they're careers. Kobe WAS that team and unfortunately spent his prime years carrying that garbage team on his back (In the WESTERN conference). Lmao. Um, just by Kobe putting up crazy points seeing triple & quadriple teams every nite was insane. You can't bring up efficiency but ignore how trash that 2006 Lakers was. Again, KD nor Lebron will EVER play on a team this bad. That team was a JOKE. Kobe willed that team for 2 seasons. Jordan would've played baseball another couple season had he come back to a roster that bad. Bottom line is this, Kobe was great at what he does even though he was not as athletically gifted as say Lebron or Tmac or even Durant. His strength was his crazy work ethic and longevity that makes him better than Tmac, not rings. This is just stupid. What your basically saying is Gasol was the REAL leader of those championship teams and carried them, which is the stupidest ish I've ever heard someone say. As far as overrated by the media, I feel the same way about Lebron. Bynum/Gasol doesn't really say much. How do I know? Bynum is a SCRUB now and Gasol is and will always be just very good skilled bigman, NOT A HOF. They benefited from playing next to Kobe. Thank you
No one said Bynum was an all star. The combination of big men for the Lakers defensively and offensively was a nightmare to deal with during those times. No one is saying Kobe played sidekick to anyone during those years, if anything he contributed equally to the ring as his team mate. You substitute Durant, or Lebron, or Prime Wade, or prime Tmac, or even Prime Vince Carter, they all come out with 2 rings. But those are just assumptions, we will never know. Therefore my conclusion that Kobe was Lucky to have played with these players. His rings has more to do with his front office than himself. Kobe played great in those playoffs, but nothing out of the expectations and had his rough games here and there.
Less = less talent around him. I respect the hell out of Kobe, I've just never seen him as more than volume shooter 2.0. I don't think he ever made teammates better or carried a team deep into the playoffs.
You should go reread what you claimed to have not been able to say better yourself. The guy said Kobe was Gasol/Bynum's sidekick during the finals which is so far from the truth. Also, did you watch those playoff series. It was clear that Bynum was just out there taking up space most of the time. They could have thrown Chris Kaman out there and got similar results back then.
Bynum was a nightmare for nobody in either finals appearance. I will agree that Gasol and Odom were big but Bynum could have been replaced by a lot of big men based on the condition he was in.
