I'm not really sure why you would be.....we don't yet have the defense, running game, or special teams to make a QB like that look worth a damn.
Sure I could have. Care to answer the question? Why isn't Teddy the GREAT mocked to the Texans more? If he's a great as folks here say he is, I mean... Why would a team who needs a QB pass on this great QB? Thanks for the link. And as Bobby said below, I don't believe anyone said he'll bust. Thank you again.
lol you only interpret it like that because its a differing argument. i like bridgewaters game, i understand theres bust potential with anyone th etexans draft. end of story, its you guys coming in here trying to lay down the law calling people fan boys.. i actually think the clowney crowd is the most logical because it makes the most sense but when you come in here and cosign nonsense it make me question youre ability to be logical. many of us place a higher importance on qb than you do and bridgewater has the desirable skillset to fill that need. by no means do i believe he is a sure thing.. find me a post where someone claimed he was a sure thing. its you guys that act like the trend of UL qbs and past failures prove that him busting is a sure thing.. in fact the first post i ever saw you make was "bridgewater or bust? more like bridgewater and bust." so please everyone needs to check themselves, folks acting like their opinion is definitive truth and better than others. theres literally examples of failures and successes of every single type of prospect coming out of the draft this year and every year.
Should have worded my sentence better. No one said he would bust because of Brahm's scouting report, but people were arguing that he has a chance of busting BECAUSE of Brahm's skill-set. Bridgewater can certainly end up a bust, but Brahm's inability to succeed at the next level has absolutely no bearing on Bridgewater.
The way I see it, claiming Teddy Bridgewater is some kind of amazing QB prospect is the "differing argument". It's a very tiresome argument, I understand why it's being made, the Texans need a QB and they have the top overall pick so there is a need to invent an elite QB prospect to drool over. I don't really have a problem with people who are realistic about Bridgewater, but I've seen him talked up as the next Aaron Rodgers WAY too many times already. When you bring up my comment on the "Bridgewater or bust" thread, I was pointing out that the OP was ridiculous because it's not an "or" type of situation because "and" would be very possible. Just because you might not be a part of the "Bridgewater fanboi" group doesn't mean they don't exist. There are extremists in every group and they make everyone look bad.
He essentially shares the same skill-set, pointing out someone with the same skill-set who beat up on weak college competition then failed at the next level just puts things in perspective considering we are talking about the overall first pick in the draft. Some say he has a perfect skillset to become a franchise QB, well he also has the perfect skillset to fail in the NFL.
I kind of agree with JR and Bobby here that the Teddy fanboys are highly annoying. I have high hopes for him but wouldn't put him on the stratosphere as other top QB prospects in the last decade. That being said, the Manziel fanboys are way worse, way more annoying, and way more non-sensical.
Yeah, I agree about the Manziel people, but honestly I think there is an excuse for a lot of them. If you are an Aggie homer, it makes sense to wear those blinders when looking at Manziel.
What about OLine? I hear Seattle's OLine is ELITE!!! We need an ELITE oline just like Seattle. Also they have ELITE WR's and TE's. We need ELITE WR's and TE's JUST LIKE SEATTLE. Because that's what makes Russell Wilson good... whoops, excuse me. That's what makes Russell Wilson "serviceable".
Soooo you do not like Teddy Bridgewater fans...... Yet you guys frequent the Teddy Bridgewater thread... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Oh how I do love straw man arguments, anyway, when you and that straw man are done going back and forth, you should get back to the discussion going on here.
Of course he has a skillset that has the potential to fail in the NFL. That is true for nearly every single quarterback that has even been drafted. Plenty of quarterbacks with Bridgewater's skillset have come into the league and failed, but plenty have been extremely successful. It's how a player adapts to the league/how healthy he stays/how he trains that determines his success when he possesses a skillset like Bridgewater's. Aaron Rodger's scouting report Spoiler POSITIVES: Athletic passer with the physical skills and mental intangibles needed to lead a franchise at the next level. Quickly sets up in the pocket, sells ball fakes and technically very sound. Poised under the rush, steps up to avoid defenders and works to keep the play alive. Patient, buys time in the pocket and waits for receivers to come free. Does an excellent job with his reads and natural looking off the safety. Does not make mental errors and throws the ball away rather than toss the errant pass. Times the short and intermediate throws well, as receivers rarely wait for the ball out of their breaks. Outstanding vision and immediately spots the open receiver. Possesses a quick release, live arm and zips the outs or gets the ball downfield. Throws with touch. Sits in the pocket and takes a big hit in order to get the pass off. Fleet-footed and picks up yardage with his legs when necessary. NEGATIVES: Though accurate, lacks top pass placement and has receivers extending vertically to pull the ball out of the air. Must improve his accuracy down the field. Lacks top footwork releasing the ball off a three step drop. Lacks pocket stature. ANALYSIS: A physically gifted passer with a great understanding of the position, Rodgers has made himself one of the nation's top quarterback prospects the past two seasons. May not fit every system, but should quickly flourish in the NFL for a timing offense that does not throw the ball down the field with regularity. Offers a good amount of upside and is a coachable player who should continually improve his game. Matt Ryan Spoiler Strengths Has a tall frame with good muscle tone and, while a bit lean, he has the frame to carry at least another 10 pounds of bulk with no loss in quickness More of a short-to-intermediate passer, but he does a good job of going through progressions and is limber enough to make those throws while on the move Very accurate passer when flushed out of the pocket, but has the strength to step up and absorb punishment Shows the balance and body control to throw the ball across his body from the outside hashes, demonstrating good lateral slide (4.29 20-yard shuttle) for his position Has a quick drive back from center to his throwing point, setting his feet properly before delivering the throw Good team leader who puts in the extra hours in the film room and training room Weaknesses Lacks the arm strength to challenge the deep secondary, as his long throws tend to flutter or hang up long enough for defenders to attack the ball in flight (see 2006 Brigham Young and Wake Forest contests and 2007 Massachusetts and Virginia Tech games) Needs to do a better job of planting his feet to get more zip behind his long throws Has inconsistent and adequate velocity when firing the ball deep Weakest area of his game is exposed when he attempts to fire the deep ball, as the pass tends to lack accuracy Runs too hot and cold when trying to air the ball out, as his long throws lack trajectory Needs to improve timing on his deep throws, as he is very inconsistent hitting those targets coming out of cuts The point is, plenty of quarterbacks have Bridgewater's skillset. Brahm did. So too did Rodgers and Ryan. And Ryan even played against even weaker competition that Bridgewater. If you don't like Bridgewater, fine. But don't make any egregious claims about him because of Brian-freaking-Brahm.
You misunderstand, it's not that I don't like Bridgewater, I just think he's not worth the Texans using the first overall pick on. IMO he's not the next Aaron Rodgers any more than Brahm was the next Drew Brees. If the Texans are going to make a quick recovery, they are going to do so by beating teams with defense, and the best way to do that is to shore up the pass rush with a freak like Clowney. If Bridgewater was there in the second round, I'd love to have him.
lol, i was pointing out everything that you neglect when criticizing Russell Wilson. Every-single-argument you make includes a red herring one way or another.
Ah, is that what you were trying to discuss with the straw man? Well, how did it go? Are you ready to re-join the conversation now?
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Is Matt Ryan successful...??? He's been successful in the regular season but he has only one playoff win doesn't he...? Isn't Atlanta drafting in the top 10... Julio Jones goes down and a weak defense but yet that 100 million dollar quarterback could only get Atlanta 4 wins... The same as Cleveland, Jacksonville, Oakland, and Tampa. But yet the quarterback position is said to be the most important. And that's true to a certain extent depending on the quarterback. I bet Teddy would be a good quarterback if he had Julio Jones, White, and Gonzalez to throw to. Ryan is an example of an overvalued quarterback because when the conditions aren't right for him he's useless. And his playoff numbers are laughable. Jay Cutler and Matt Stafford fit that mold as well.
That Aaron Rodgers comparison isn't fair to Bridgewater especially when Rodgers got to sit and learn behind Farve for 3 years while his body developed. Teddy won't get that opportunity.
Those guys are all better than what we have right now and if we can get a player anywhere near as good as them on a rookie salary i do it in a heartbeat.
